Awesome camera. I've wanted a full frame Canon digital for some time and was always a bit put off by the price. In my mind I couldn't justify spending more on a camera than I would on a s/h motorbike as I'm just an average amateur snapper (just an average amateur everything really.......). I've had, and still got, Canon film cameras, including an EOS 3 which I got last year, so I have quite a few EF lenses. In fact it was the EOS 3 which decided me getting the 5d4, I wanted the digital version of it, it was that good even if the film photographs weren't as good as I'd hoped. So as I'm not getting any younger I threw caution to the wind and ordered a 5d4 from an Amazon marketplace trader. When it came I charged the battery and had a play. I put my EF 50mm f1.4 on it and pointed it at a lot of things and took pictures of them. One of the things I took a picture of was a bright star, in a black sky, with nothing else visible. The camera focused on it straight away so I pressed the shutter. Looking at the image I couldn't believe how many stars were in it, yet you couldn't see them with the naked eye but the camera did. Fantastic! However, over the coming days it became apparent that my EF full frame lenses that I've had for a long time were not up to the standard that you need for a 5d4 to get the best results from it. I worked out that some of my EF lenses were over 30 years old................older than some countries. (It also explained why my EOS 3 photos were a bit 'off' when using the older lenses) Apart from the 50mm 1.4 lens all my others were not really up to the accuracy I wanted so a new lens was ordered, a 24-105mm, which when attached and used with the 5d4 gave the clarity and definition I was hoping for from this camera. So my advice would would be to get this camera, it's a fantastic piece of kit, but make sure you've got decent lenses to go with it, preferably 'L' series, but if you can't stretch to that then any recently introduced EF enthusiast lens as these will be designed and manufactured primarily for full frame digital Canons.
Truly amazing piece of kit, and particularly good for taking photos in low light. I used to (reluctantly) use flash for photographing classical concerts with my Canon 760. With the 5D MkIV I get superb results without any flash. Great autofocus, great exposure control, easy to use and beautifully made. Brilliant camera.
Very pleased with this having upgraded from a 5D Mark II. I was originally keen to upgrade to the Mark III when it came out but was put off by the initial negative reviews and the increased launch cost, only to see its reputation grow considerably in the time it was available making me regret my decision. The Mark IV again is not seen as revolutionary enough in some quarters – exactly as the Mark III was initially – but it substantially different to the Mark II and I decided it was time to ignore the nay-sayers and give it a go.
And my first impression? I have been really stunned by the performance and changes since the Mark II and a weekend with it has shown me what a considerable upgrade it is – albeit quite complex in comparison.
I probably shot around 70,000 frames on the Mark II covering wildlife, landscapes, weddings, astrophotography, timelapse and travel so I consider myself pretty familiar with the platform. However, the Mark IV is considerably more advanced and therefore has MANY more options. Consequently it has taken quite a bit of learning (and fun) experimenting with all the new options to see how it works. The manual is 700 pages! But I was still able to pick it up without any of this and see how much of an advance it is.
Favourite changes compared to the Mark II 1) Autofocus – stunningly fast through the viewfinder. Hugely better than the Mark II. Nice to be able to select zones to focus with as well as just points. 2) Autofocus (live view) – I never used this before because it was so bad, but now it is stunning. I can even accurately focus an F11 combo (2x extender and F5.6 lens), something not possible through the viewfinder – even on the Mark IV which will only focus an F8 combo. 3) Drive. The speed of the drive is incredible compared to the Mark II (more than twice as fast). It is also nice to now have a silent shutter option at about half the noise level. 4) Wi-fi. This is really fantastic, simply because I can get images of the camera so quickly. From taking a personal photo to sharing it from my phone takes less than a minute. Previously this would take 10-15 minutes by the time I had started the computer and Lightroom and imported the photo. Makes me more likely to use it for personal use rather than just serious photography. 5) Resolution. The 50% bump in resolution is really noticeable. I can zoom in considerably more and the options for cropping are obviously much better. I also don’t seem to have any issue so far with soft images which people have said happens with high resolution sensors although I have only used L series lenses. 6) ISO. It is great to have auto ISO with programmable limits now compared to the 5D II but I have been really impressed at how far I can push it. 12800 was something I wouldn’t even consider going near with the Mark II but now the quality of this has really blown me away. More like an ISO 3200 image on the Mark II, maybe even better. 7) Ergonomics. There are more physical buttons on the Mark IV which, although I am learning, are clearly going to be useful for switching settings even more rapidly. The rating button was on the Mark III, but for me coming from the Mark II, this is a very welcome making sorting the images in the field much easier. 8) Batteries and cards. The Mark II battery still works in this (the LP-E6N has slightly more capacity but is otherwise identical) and of course the Compact Flash is still accepted. I would have liked a newer format option but for now this works well for me. Writing images from buffer seems plenty quick enough. 9) Timelapse. I do a lot of this and whilst I like my programmable external controller it looks to have enough features to make it practical to use the built in intervalometer instead. 10) Touchscreen. This is actually really useful, especially when focusing in live view, zooming images, or swiping through them – just as responsive as a good smartphone. I am finding I am using the camera in a different way like selecting focus for a video or picture on the back (it feels like I am chimping a LOT) but the focus is so darn good it seems a shame not to!
Things I need to get used to 1) Battery life. I have been playing around a lot and GPS/Wi-fi have been left on for now, but it drops much more quickly than the Mark II. 2) Awkward ergonomics using touchscreen. Because your right hand grips the camera you need to loosen that to pinch zoom in/out. I have almost dropped the camera several times doing this. I guess the only option is to learn to pinch zoom with my left hand only or always use the strap! 3) Complexity. The camera has an order of magnitude more options than the Mark II. It has only been one weekend and I need to spend more time getting to know the camera but some bits I will probably never understand. This is probably less of an issue if your are coming from a Mark III. 4) Dual Pixel RAW. I have yet to try Dual Pixel images as reviews suggested the effect was so negligible I haven’t yet tried.
In summary I am really pleased I have made the change. I was concerned that the benefit wasn’t going to be enough to justify the cost to swap but I now think it is well worth it.
Update: Lightroom now supports the 5D Mark IV and the photos attached are just using the default settings in Lightroom (no extra sharpening etc). As you can see the full frame image is of a sunflower with a bee on it. I have included a 100% crop of this to show that the sensor has picked up even the individual hairs on the back of the bee despite it being tiny in the frame. This was handheld at 1/200s on a 24-105mm L lens set at 105mm.
I have also included a night time shot of the Milky Way @12800 ISO, 20s, F4 24-105mm L. I have included a 100% crop of this too. The movement of the stars is caused by the 20 second exposure time but you can see quite a bit of noise in the church. However, considering this is 12800 ISO I am still very impressed.
The camera is as good as I expected it to be from canon. I have not yet had all the time I need to set up the custome features I want on it , but it’s still a learning curve for me ,but I am still very impressed with the picture sharpness & the touch screen is better than through it would be as this is the first touch screen I’ve had coming from a 600D
Fantastic camera but beware of some suppliers. Mine came from Munty Express (an Amazon partner supplier) who were unable to provide a VAT receipt and on checking with Canon UK they stated they would not provide warranty cover without a VAT receipt from an approved reseller. They confirmed the camera I had been supplied was a grey import and probably part of a known VAT avoidance scam. Munty Express said they would provide a two year warranty, whereby in the event of a failure, I had to return the camera to them and they would return it to their supplier who would in turn return it to Canon (what could possibly go wrong with that arrangement!) Hence, the camera was returned under the Amazon returns procedure. (Be aware that it does take some time to get your money back on high value Amazon returns) Amazon seemed unconcerned about the grey import element and accepted the return under normal distance selling rules. I have since re-purchased for only slightly more directly from Canon UK.
Stunning camera! Upgraded from a 5D Mk. III and the the improvements in the Mk. IV are great. Noise control is superb, dynamic range is better and the detail in the 30MP images are wonderful allowing quite dramatic crops with no loss of quality. The touch screen is a very nice touch but I still find myself using the buttons but that's just habit. The live view touch focusing is fantastic!! I don't do video so cannot comment on that side of things but for a stills camera this takes some beating in the Canon range.
The best all round camera that you can currently buy. I do love this camera because in regards to usability nothing comes close. Dual pixel autofocus and the touch screen make this an incredible performer. The problem is that it still has the AA filter and 4k features on this camera are very disappointing.
Canon could have made THE best all round camera if they just did that extra bit more but sadly it's left a bit of a bad taste for many photographers. Even still if you are looking to buy this camera don't read too much into the negative reviews it is a great camera and most people will be very happy with it.