I bought these knives a couple of weeks ago from TJ Hughes on my local high street. I had been looking for some replacements for a very cheap set I already had. I decided that I wanted knives with a full tang rather than just inserted into nasty plastic handles like my previous knives were. I came across these and they looked like a good buy. I was sure I had seen the Sabatier name elsewhere on quite expensive knives. I got them home and unpacked the box. Initially I was pleased with my purchase and I assumed that I had found a bargain. I then began to do a little research on Sabatier and found that it isn't the name of a manufacturer but a loosely based term which covers everything from very expensive and well made French knives right down to very poor quality mass produced French and Chinese made knives which mimic the style and name of the more expensive variety. I checked the box they came in and noticed 'Made in PRC'(Peoples Republic of China), So I guess these must be the cheap versions then. Besides that, the knives are sharp, sturdy and weighted nicely, however I left one of the knives in the sink with some other washing up overnight to soak and to my horror I found an indelible brown stain across the top of the knife. On further inspection, more corrosion on the sharp edge which has eaten a small nick into the edge. This particular knife has been used just once from new, for slicing cheddar cheese. Perhaps this is a one-off and a defective knife but I would be reluctant to leave them in water any longer for fear of them dissolving away completely. I would advise doing your homework before buying these or any knives.