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This review is from: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why (Plus) (Paperback)
Ehrman's "The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture" covers similar ground but seems addressed primarily to scholars. This popular presentation is not only considerably more readable for the lay reader but has a superb, open introduction by Ehrman in which he details his path from a born-again believer to the mature scholar he is today, who appreciates the Bible but sees it as the work of human beings who may "... have to figure out how to live and what to believe on our own, without setting the Bible up as a false idol ..." Strong words indeed and a challenge to those who have not yet read this book or, having read it, remain unable to accept even the factual aspects of Ehrman's presentation.
Ehrman explains textual criticism for lay people with examples. He exposes the problem that the present versions of the Bible have: besides having been copied over centuries and translated, they are derived from multiple differing versions, such that even scholars don't know in places what the original words of the Bible were.
Ehrman, since his youth, has had a deep and authentic interest in how the Bible came down to us. You may disagree with him in part or even whole as to his speculations but he's made a gifted and sincere effort to share with you what he has learned. He's no salesman. If you read it with an open mind, you may never regard the Bible in the same way again.
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Initial post: 1 Nov 2008 06:26:32 GMT
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Nov 2008 17:11:29 GMT
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> Even its author admits that no theological issue is endangered by the manuscripts variations.
Hmm, here's what the Editorial Review from Booklist Amazon.com (the U.S. counterpart) provides on the Product Page for this book says:
"Though himself schooled in evangelical literalism, Ehrman has come to regard his earlier faith in the inerrant inspiration of the Bible as misguided, given that the original texts have disappeared and that the extant texts available do not agree with one another. Most of the textual discrepancies, Ehrman acknowledges, matter little, but some do profoundly affect religious doctrine."
If there is any question left in "Misquoting Jesus" about the impact on the changes the copyists made, refer also to his earlier "The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture". It was examining these variations, while studying the Bible as a scholar, that Ehrman says was a significant reason he stopped being a Christian. "No theological issue endangered"? Just the small issue of leading Ehrman to apostasy.
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In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2009 11:08:09 BDT
Last edited by the author on 6 Jul 2009 11:27:44 BDT
Philo Joe says:
Where did you get this statistic 99.8% perfect in your initial statement please?
Also "perfect" in what sense?
In you last statement the idea of "percentage genuineness" is misguided. The addition, removal or changing of one word in a long passage can change its whole meaning.
In reply to an earlier post on 25 Aug 2009 22:31:47 BDT
beyond the wall says:
the basis of the christian bible, and christianity, lies in its claimed historicity, ie that it isn't just fabricated and incarnated myth, as with say Greek/Egyptian/Mesopotamian mythology .. and that it is the divinely inspired word of God.. to say ignore the errors implies God doesn't know what he's saying and that God makes mistakes, which is what human beings do ... and you call this 'thinking reasonably'? .. try reading 'Jesus Mysteries', 'The Christ Conspiracy', etc, and YOU think about it
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Mar 2010 09:11:24 GMT
J Grainger says:
It's interesting that 99% doesn't notice the contradiction in his review and the book when he talks about 'factual aspects' and 'speculations'. If the aspects are factual and add to the debate, as usual it all comes down to speculation.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2010 22:19:21 BDT
J. E. J. Lloyd says:
Uola writes " - what about the 90% that is genuine ?". We could ask "What 90% ?" - We must be allowed to examine any so called Truth that is presented to us. We have developed brains (minds) that exercise a talent called 'logic'. If we wish, we could call that logic a gift from god. but that does not release us from the responsibility of exercising and even improving our mental abilities. Everything is open to improvement, nothing but nothing is fixed. Not even our perception of past events..
In reply to an earlier post on 4 Aug 2015 21:10:25 BDT
"The great majority of scholars agree that NT Manuscripts are about 99.8% perfect which means all or any debate against the truthfullness of the NT is stupidity and waste of time."
Well, I've read some nonsense in my time but that takes the biscuit.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Feb 2016 13:14:32 GMT
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Barrie Davis says:
How is apostasy a theological issue? Losing one's faith in a blinding flash of reality means theology becomes irrelevant.... totally. Theology is, after all, the study of the mind of God as it relates to man. If there is no God, there is no mind, and no relating can go on.... (God, as always, is unavailable for comment... which is only to be expected.)
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