Could walk 30km straight out of the box (with no rubbing) - which is rare for me, so a big positive there. However these were the hottest, least breathable goretex shoes i've ever owned (20 years and countless pairs). They even went a bit smelly after 4-5 months - something i've never had with any type of footwear before. Also developed a squeak when walking on down-slopes after 6 months. Nothing could cure it, which online guides suggested that if you can't cure it with their various tips, then it's a fault in the layers of the shoe soles when manufactured. Something you don't expect in this price bracket. It did seem internal, as they still squeak with the inner footbed removed. Also went quite shabby quickly as the nubuck was not really up to craggy and rocky paths. I have a similar pair of nubuck coated NF boots - full ankle, which are a year older and for some reason are tougher and still look hardly worn - in spite of being older. All in all - mixed feelings on this one.