This is just my opinion, but I am not entirely convinced that these are the same Levis that can be purchased in the actual Levis stores here in the UK. I have several pairs from said stores and there are very subtle differences. I dont think they're fake, as all the labels, rivets etc are basically the same (the rivets on the jeans from the Levis store are definitely heavier though) but the fit and feel of the denim is different. More of a loose fit rather than a straight fit. I suspect these were not made for the European/American markets. More like made under some sort of licence elsewhere in order to keep costs down in the countries they're selling them in. Anyway, they're just.... ok.... but not enough for me to order anymore. Funnily, I did order a pair from eBay in a different colour and they're exactly the same! Moral of the story... you get what you pay for.