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VINE VOICEon 22 December 2013
Firstly I have to admire any non historian brave enough to put any thoughts on The Great Debate out in print! Overall the book is well written and straight forward, timelines of events are set out clearly. I don't know if the book was curtailed for any reason, but I suppose the problem is that there is so much you 'could' say on the subject and often I found myself saying "yes, but...!" But, to be fair overall, I did seriously consider Garber's views and that surely can't be a bad thing.

There seem to be a few oddities going on - a few dates that didn't look right and Robert Brackenbury written variously as Roger Blackenbury! A think a key piece that was missing was the marriage negotiations with Portugal for both Richard III and Elizabeth of York - this surely sheds a different light on some of Garber's conclusions? I suppose my main quibble is that I by no means share the authors degree of probability that the bones in Westminster Abbey are those of the two princes - for starters, we don't know if these are the same bones referred to in the written account of the discovery of bones, they are actually where Thomas More said they were NOT (even if you can take any of More's supposed work on trust) and we don't know if they are the right period (there's no actual evidence for the supposed pieces of velvet) or even if they are male or female! Further analysis of these remains would answer at least some of these questions, so it puzzles me why the authorities won't allow it - it's not precisely disturbing a royal tomb, is it?

Overall, this isn't a bad book, but I do think that Annette Carson's 'Small Guide to the Great Debate' probably covers the same sort of ground rather better.
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on 13 December 2013
In this relatively short book, Garber uses his many years experience as a police detective to present an unbiased and clear cut evaluation of the age old mystery - the Princes in the Tower.

Speculation as to the Princes' fate has forever existed, and with the discovery of their Uncle's body under the car park in Leicester, the conspiracy theories are bound to be rekindled once more. Garber has accurately presented the facts, assessed them in the logical way we would expect of any criminal investigation, and drawn conclusions from what we know. Hard as it is not to get caught up in endless webs of speculation for which there are no solid supporting facts, Garber succeeds in avoiding the bulk of this, and having no pre-existing sympathies with any side of the argument, he achieves a true methodical analysis.

If you'd like to know more about the now infamous Princes in the Tower story, then this is an excellent place to start. It is refreshingly unbiased and nonfictional; whilst Garber does draw his own final conclusion as to where the guilt may lie, the reader feels armed with enough information to form a base of their own opinions, and reading this book will allow you to follow some of the other stories by doing further research on the numerous influential and colourful characters involved.

We can only hope that one day permission will be granted for the collection of valuable evidence, although this certainly seems unlikely to occur in our own lifetimes. Without it, this book is about the best hope we have of understanding the evidence that is available, as incomplete as it may be.

Garber states both at the beginning and the end of this book that it will probably be a one-off publication. Garber if you're reading this, please reconsider - there are so many other unsolved mysteries that would benefit from your structured and unbiased approach!

The only reason I gave this 4 stars not 5 is because any future publications would benefit from better proof reading, the amount of errors do the book an injustice.
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on 14 December 2013
For a retired policeman he didn't delve far beyond the traditional stuff. It is not at all certain Hastings was executed straight from the meeting or that Richard courted Elizabeth of York. Indeed, the one thing that stands out in all the talk about this period is that Richard and Anne had that rare thing in their circles, a love match. I wouldn't have this guy investigating my insurance.
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on 16 May 2015
So many books on the same topic, yet this one came up with something totally new.
After over 500 years, that is a great achievement, in my opinion
Read it. It will certainly give you something to think about.
Now I can't wait for more........please.
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on 12 August 2014
This was written in an engaging style which had all the hallmarks of a good police investigation. I liked the was no person involved was not considered as a suspect and I agree with the final outcome.
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on 4 February 2014
An interesting take on 'The Princes in the Tower' but the author did not do his homework. It is known that Richard sought Portuguese royal matches both for himself and for Elizabeth of York after the death of Anne Neville. There is no evidence that he had a sexual relationship with his niece.
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on 12 April 2016
The case for the murder of the princes is well put using available information rather than primary sources.
What the author believes to be the keystone of his theory is open to question though.
I don't seriously believe Richard iii had an entanglement with his niece Elizabeth of York and he could never have considered marriage with her. He would have had to repeal Titulus Regis to legitimise her in order to marry her. This would have the effect of restoring the succession and invalidating his own claim to the crown.
Why would Henry Tudor have pre-arranged a marriage with Elizabeth of York unless she was first in line after her brothers, she couldn't bolster his claim unless she was next in line. So Henry believed the princes were dead before he invaded, otherwise why bother?
The intriguing part is what if the young Royal brothers had been alive all along....
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on 4 January 2015
the book had a present day approach which was ok but not the answer I would have come up with /would like to had a better insight into pretender lambert sinnel as we could then have had a more interesting theory /I think maybe 1 child was the young king but the other was not /would love to see more reviews but thank you Mark for allowing us look at it your way . history lover.
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on 15 August 2014
A very interesting book. Mark Garber makes no claims to be an historian or an accomplished author, he is as he says a policeman used to investigating crime. The book is very concise, neatly set out and easy to follow. He makes some interesting new points and has some different perspectives on the historical events which seem quite plausible and certainly make you think. His naming of the perpetrator of the murder of the princes is also well thought out and reasoned. He deals with all the suspects one by one in a very Poirot like manner and gives his reasons for dismissing them until he is left with the one peson he feels comitted the crime. I enjoyed this book and would recommend it for what it is - an entertaining and thought provoking read.
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on 14 October 2014
This is an interesting little novelty … the Princes in the Tower mystery given the modern day detective treatment. A short book, (89 pages), which is well presented. Quite useful as an aide-memoire for events and people surrounding this mystery. Doesn't really present anything I didn't already know and is very much the author's view. Interesting nonetheless.
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