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on 12 April 2018
Two very different stories dealing with 2nd most infamous enemy of the Doctor besides the Daleks are of course The Cyberman and nice to see how Tom Baker and Slyvester McCoy deal with them in their very different incarnations of the famous Timelord as opposed to other doctors apart from Jon Pertwee who never got a proper story with them in his era. Once again you get very different designs with these Cyberman that reflect the era they came from but still a great watch. Silver Nemesis is of course the story from the shows 25th anniversary so mentions key bits of information that only true whovians would pick up from the shows very start. Revenge of The Cyberman sees the doctor make a return to the Ark from Ark in Space to catch up with his tardis but ends up transported back to a much earlier time and has to figure out what is going on and why the Cyberman have been called there! Recommended for anyone who is a fan of the Cyberman and want to have in their collection.
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on 19 August 2013

Interesting cast this one; most of 'em have done Dr Who before, those that haven't soon would do, except for the remaining one, who featured in the first episode of Blake's 7.

I seem to recall reading that Gerry Davis may not have been too happy with the finished script - increased location filming necessitating more and more re-writes - but I like this, however it may re-use a few ideas from Moonbase and Wheel in Space.

The atmosphere is solidly grim from the outset; political murder on Voga, and a corridor full of corpses on the beacon - don't kid me about sterile atmosphere, the smell in there would have been horrendous - the skeleton Nerva crew doing their duty however much the horrid Professor Kellman stands by and sneers at them - how admirably British; I'd have shot him and blamed one of the corpses in the corridor.

It says something for the plotting of this that the eponymous villains don't really get involved until the end of Episode 2, and that it still works perfectly happily - rather well, in fact, to have the first two episodes telling the massive backstory - the Cyberwar and Voga's involvement - and with sufficient clarity that the first time I saw it, I thought they were talking about the previous Cyberman story (alas there are no Glitter Guns in The Invasion). It is also something of an aceivement that the story is sufficiently well-told that the numerous holes in the plot are not immediately visible.

The Vogans are extremely well-realised; not just well-designed and well acted, but finely drawn; Vorus may be ruthless but his patriotism is beyond doubt; Tyrum may be well-disposed to Sarah and Harry, but he's a staunch separatist and obviously not to be trusted. Michael Wisher turns in a cheekily bronchial performance as Magrik. The 'Dove' and 'Hawk' designs are very good, as are the sets - though I do wonder how the Vogans copied the Great Seal of Rassilon (still, with all that gold, it's amazing what you can afford).

The Cybermen are commendably solid, and I like the voices and the head-mounted guns.

It's a tale of set-pieces; the Dr's escape from Kellman's cabin, the interrogation over the Pentallion Drive, the beacon/rocket/Voga climax, and the protracted massacre in Wookey Hole, entailing two Cybermen and a lot of dead Vogans. It says 'Don't mess with Cybermen' very loudly (especially if you're a Vogan).

The stuff filmed down Wookey Hole looks fantastic, well worth the inconvenience to Gerry Davis, even if the contrast with the studio sets jars sometimes.

The downside is that the BBC (who are selling this thing for money - it's not some cheap giveaway) have produced such a paltry Making Of, and in spite of You Tube amateurs being able to do up the video effects the BBC hasn't bothered - slapdash and shabby. The Cheques, Lies and Videotape is worth watching though - reminded me of a tenth generation copy of Robots of Death I used to own.

Oh, and the Vogan on the cover isn't the villainous Vorus, it's Magrick.

4/5 - for the story - the DVD production is poor.


It has a lot going for it: all shot on location, and Courtney Pine playing jazz; it's the twenty fifth year of Dr Who, so we've got to have something silver in it, better be Cybermen...

It looks very good; Arundel - both town and Castle - doubles very fetchingly as a cinematic double for Windsor; the South American stuff looks convincing, and even the gasworks, where the Cybermen blow the paramilitaries to perdition, looks impressive. In addition, the Cybermen are looking smart, there's a couple of nicely turned out Skinheads, the paramilitaries look the business, and the pair from the C17 ought to look good, cos their frocks are straight out of By The Sword Divided.

The Making Of indicates that the plot was pretty much slapped together, and it's as uncommonly similar to Remembrance as Attack was to Resurrection. Oops. Everybody seems to want the statue, but it needs the bow and arrow to achieve critical mass, so we can run around for an episode and a half in some nice scenery. One story where it turns out that the Dr has set the thing up all along may be counted an indulgence; two looks like laziness, as does copying the plot from two stories ago (and Ace being chased up flights of stairs by monsters).

But if you accept that it's nonsense, much of it is very good; the chase through Windsor Castle, the big shoot out in Episode 2, the stuff in South America, silly Mrs Remington, and the final catapult shoot out against the Cybermen among those creaking gantries - I do pity Sophie Aldred and the poor blokes in the silver suits - it cannot have been nice. Nice Cybership too, and when Sylvester says 'Cybermen!' you can tell he really loathes them.

Fiona Walker and Gerard Murphy do well, even if Kevin Clarke's understanding of 1638 is next to negligible (he refers to it as Jacobbean, even though King James had been dead for 13 years by then, and the idea that Lady Peinforte had anything to do with Roundheads is fatuous) and the time spell is ridiculous, but I like them appearing in the tea room, and they have some nice dialogue (and it could easily have been in iambic pentameter, but JT said no...). Anton Differing, in his last role, seems perfectly aware that he's acting in something very silly, and that he's only really in England for the tennis.

As for the Skinheads, why do they assume that the couple in C17 costume are social workers? I spent a lot of 1988 wearing C17 costume, and I wasn't a social worker, nor were any of my mates - and we never got bother off Skinheads.

The more serious downside is that this is not the extended play version that was on the VHS so, for instance, the aforementioned chase through Windsor Castle isn't in it, and the excellent American-made documentary that accompanied it is absent; this means that the DVD version is *less* good than the VHS - I understand there may be a rights issue, but the way to solve that is for the BBC to pay the money - they are selling this for money after all, and if they feel they're not raking in enough, they can take it out of the obscene amount of money they pay Jonathan Ross.

2/5 (but not a good 2/5)
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on 18 May 2018
Here we have two of the less beloved Cyber stories of the classic series, and do they deserve that reputation? Probably. But there's fun to be had in both of these, even if they are somewhat maligned. Both feature the Doctor's only encounters wih the Cybermen in that incarnation (Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy respectively), so its worth it for just that. Revenge is probably the worse of the two, but it still has Sarah Jane Smith and Harry Sullivan, two beloved companions, set on a space station, trying to stop the Cybermen blowing up a planet of gold. Silver Nemesis, meanwhile, has the Doctor fighting off three factions who want control of an ancient Time Lord weapon - the Cybermen, a witch, and some Neo-Nazis. It's as weird as it sounds, and it has a surprise cameo from """the Queen"""
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on 23 February 2016
I got the boxset when buying Tom Baker's "Revenge of the Cybermen" and will focus my comments there. I knew roughly what to expect, notably that it was a prebooked 'safe' start for H&H's era. Despite my nostalgia the flawed plot leapt out and the real caves are walked through like studio corridors. Really the energy and interest is sustained by Baker and Sladen's early efforts. I actually liked the re-use of the "Arc" space station and thought the crew actors were good. "Cheques Lies and Videotapes" in the extras was one of the highlights for me. However it gets better from here...

Yes I will watch it again so it's a 4 not a 3.
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on 2 December 2017
Was Tom Baker's only cybermen adventure. It's ok as a stand alone but inferior to all the earlier cybermen adventures. However in the context in which it was shown, 4 adventures revolving around the same space station (the ark in space, genesis of the daleks and the sontaren experiment) this becomes a true classic. But watch all four stories.
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on 7 February 2018
I love the old Doctor Who episodes I just wish they would release them in box sets in order as it is very difficult and impractical to put together a collection.
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on 15 November 2016
Revenge of the Cybermen was the first Dr Who I bought in VHS way back when and boy does this take me back, this is true Dr Who even though the dead bodies at the start are so obviously mannequins, if your a fan and you don't own this already why not? Oh it includes Silver Nemesis as well...
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on 5 February 2018
First class spot on very fast
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on 19 April 2016
These BBC productions never fail to please. Bought to replace the VHS versions, the Dr Who chronology is a glimpse into the growth and development of the BBC broadcast.
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on 25 October 2011
Dr WHO doing as he should do & it's great as the TOM BAKER is one of his best that I say grouing up with the TV , along with histongue in cheek in danger . The Sylvester McCot is a good one from him as it's like the Cybermen facing one them enamy this the doctor playing against each other & him doing his best.
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