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4.4 out of 5 stars
Primitive
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on 21 June 2002
A strong line up including the biggest name in metal of the time, Primitive goes there, does it, but somehow fails to deliver the goods.
The riffs are hard and Sepultura-esque, and Max Cavalera still has the driving angst and genuine passion of the classic Seps days. Yet throughout there seems to be a desire to experiment, diversify, and try new styles, probably borne out of a fear that the old formula isn't quite working now.
It's a damn shame, because the result is an over-length record that doesn't make a mark, has a lot of indistinct tracks and is a bit forgettable.
Probably there are those who disagree, but I'm hoping something new comes into the equation to liven Soulfly up to something like the expectations we had when Sepultura split.
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on 23 July 2001
Holy s**t!! From "Back to the Primtive" the album is an explosion of passion and energy. Phenomenal tribal drumming and heavy as f**k guitars combined with that voice of Max's. I saw them live at Ozzfest 2001 in the UK and they blew me away. Intense rhythms and detuned guitars bring out the best from the grandfather of metal - he brought the music with him from Sepultura and has kept improving. The respect he has is shown by the other guys who sing on the CD. Tom Araya from Slayer, Chino Moreno from Deftones, Grady Avenall from Will Haven and of course, contributing on one of the best tracks ever - Corey Taylor from Slipknot. If you like Sepultura, Slipknot or any loud s**t with class rhythms then check out Soulfly!!
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on 2 October 2000
A pretty decent follow up album, which benefits from better production and more ideas, yet isn't quite in the same league as 'Roots' or 'Chaos AD'. As well as 'Back to the primitive', the standout tracks are those with guest collaborators, like 'Jumpthaf**kup' (with Corey from Slipknot), 'Pain' (my favourite, featuring Chino Moreno from the Deftones and Grady from Will Haven) and, surprisingly, 'Son Song' (which features Sean Lennon). Max has tried experimenting with a few different genres, as well, like hardcore hip-hop, raggae and even soulful dancey vocals (on the song 'Flyhigh', which features guest female vocalist). These changes will probably annoy 'old-school' Sepultura fans but they are worthwhile because they make the album more varied and inventive. As I've said this isn't quite classic status, it is too reliant on guest musicians and the tracks without special guests pale in comparison but it's still a worthwhile buy and far superior to the overrated and contrived debut disc
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on 29 September 2000
A pretty decent follow up album, although nothing as groundbreaking as 'Roots' or 'Chaos AD'. The standout tracks are the tracks with guest collaborators, like 'Jump the fuck up' (with Corey from Slipknot), 'Pain' (my favourite, featuring Chino Moreno and Grady from Will Haven) and, surprisingly 'Son Song' (which features Sean Lennon). Max has also tried a lot of new styles on this album like raggae, hardcore hip-hop and one song ('flyhigh') even has a soulful female song chorus. These changes are going to annoy a lot of 'old-school' Sepultura fans, but in my opinion they make the album even more inventive and diverse. As I've said, this album isn't classic status. It's too reliant on guest musicians, and the tracks without the star guests seem boring and pale in comparison. Still, it's a great improvement on the overrated and contrived debut disc
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on 29 July 2011
Soulfly's second album Primitive, released back in 2000 during the Nu Metal era saw the band continue the formula established by their debut self titled album from 1998 and also Sepultura's Roots album from 1996 to an extent.

The sound mixes tribal percussion and additional instruments in with a mixture of heavy groove metal riffs and bouncy Nu Metal riffs. The production, handled by Toby Wright & Max Cavalera is very much inspired by the style used by Ross Robinson on the band's debut and several other notable Nu Metal efforts.

The album is absolutely full of guest appearances; from non-famous Brazilian musicians to Slipknot's, Slayer's and Deftones' singers as well as John Lennon's son Sean Lennon among others.

The lyrics are a mixture between old Sepultura (and on one song, Slayer!) lyrics reworked, sections in Portuguese, Quasi-spiritual sections and Max's usual style of violent simplistic lyrics.

Some people may see this as the best Soulfly album, bringing together everything they like about the band, others may think it is a cluttered mess of different ideas and guest appearances that lacks any real cohesion for most of the time and that just rehashes old ideas for the rest of the time.

Overall, Primitive is very much an album of its time. Whether you think that means that it has horribly dated or that it is a classic is very much up to your personal opinion. The band certainly seem to play enough of it live to suggest many fans still love it.

For me, the album has some worthy moments (`The Prophet,' and `Pain,' are highlights) but is largely forgettable and too dated. I loved the album when it was brand new, but now very rarely find myself listening to it at all. The album is certainly worth a few listens, but Soulfly have definitely made better albums.
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on 23 September 2000
This album has scrambled my senses..... I heard a lot a bout it at first, and thought that it was going to be the same as the first Soulfly album (which was excellent, but I didn't think that more of the same was needed)......
The first track started off with a mellow tribal guitar strumming and I thought "hmmm, strange start to a metal album"..... then I heard Max screaming "UM, DOIS, TRÉS, QUATRES" and thought "Now THATS more like it"..... and from start to finish this album is one of the most vital to come out this year.....
The songs here are filled with a kinetic fury last heard on the "Chaos A.D." album by Sepultura... and have danceable/moshable rhythms that will get your heart pumping faster....
The collaboration with Sean Lennon came as a complete surprise and is an excellent song, with mellowed-out singing from Sean, and guttural vocals from Max..... bringing together a combination that is ever-so-slightly trippy while invigoratingly noisy....
JumpDaF*ckUp could have been a song from Slipknot's debut album..... Corey Taylor does stalwart work on bring the energy and pain into this song...
Basically, this manages to trump it's predecessor with a lot more coherency and style which wasn't really there in the 1st Soulfly album..... you wil not regret buying this.
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on 6 October 2000
A pretty decent follow up album, which benefits from better production and more ideas, yet isn't quite in the same league as 'Roots' or 'Chaos AD'. As well as 'Back to the primitive', the standout tracks are those with guest collaborators, like 'Jumpthaf**kup' (with Corey from Slipknot), 'Pain' (my favourite, featuring Chino Moreno from the Deftones and Grady from Will Haven) and, surprisingly, 'Son Song' (which features Sean Lennon). Max has tried experimenting with a few different genres, as well, like hardcore hip-hop, raggae and even soulful dancey vocals (on the song 'Flyhigh', which features guest female vocalist). These changes will probably annoy 'old-school' Sepultura fans but they are worthwhile because they make the album more varied and inventive. As I've said this isn't quite classic status, it is too reliant on guest musicians and the tracks without special guests pale in comparison but it's still a worthwhile buy and far superior to the overrated and contrived debut disc.
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on 30 September 2000
...If you loved the last album you'll love this one; it still has a lot of guests (one of it's only downsides) yet is much more diverse. take 'Flyhigh' featuring the amazing female vocals of Asha Rabouin. The highlight of the album is undoubtedly Jumpdafuckup or Terrorist. The former seeing Max trade off vocals with Corey Taylor of Slipknot and the later has Max and Tom Araya of Slayer shreeding their vocal chords. Yet contrasting against the heaviness of Terrorist is Soulfly (the second part) which is possibly the most mellow song ever written by Max cavalara. 'In Memory Of' sees Max playing one of the most rap pieces he has ever done with Cuttthroat Logic. each song is brilliant with Mikey Doling helping max to use more than just Sepaltura-esque riffs. All in all a must have for all who want something that is not rap-metal and who love what Max Cavalara does; write blindingly heavy music with a strong tribal influence.
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on 26 May 2001
Wow , this album is really good . Ex Sepultura frontman Max Cavalera (spelt right?) . This album is just as good as the first and contains extra tracks ( 2 live tracks and 2 mixes) . Geusts include Deftone's Chino Moreno and Slipknot's Corey Taylor(8) . This album (like Soulfly) has deep , tribal roots . Much better than nu-metal bands like Papa Roach , Limp Bizkit and Crazy Town. Standout tracks include "Jumpdafuckup" , "Boom" , "Back To The Primitive" and "Mulambo" ....... oh wait , i'm just writing of the back of the album . They're all excellent. For other decent albums buy "Sepultura-Nation".
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on 2 December 2000
Basically you could sum this album up as if you loved the first one then this is better. Trouble is, the first one was not very good. In fact it was shambolic, which does not make this offering any better.
The music has a short attention span, very simplistic (which Max seems to get away with) and maybe playing on the fact of guest appearances.
I feel that Max has lost direction and is trying to please everyone, perhaps except, for himself.
This album is pale in comparison to the heights he scaled with Sepultura and is a sad indictment of the lack-lustre metal we have to put up with today.
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