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on 28 August 2016
This book comes as a major disappointment after reading all previous Honor Harrington books. What happened to the action scenes? Not worth reading. There are better and more active authors out there.
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on 31 March 2015
D.W. is back on track with this story very enjoyable.
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on 24 August 2012
First off, 'A Rising Thunder' is not bad. It's not great and I suspect it'll be a much better read in hindsight, but it is somewhat awkward, as it spends so much time trying to tie together all of these separate strands and people together rather than just getting on with it. In turn, this is due to the spectacular quantity of arc-welding that Weber's having to do to bring the originally planned storyline forward by about forty or so years.

The result is a bridging volume, much like the other reviewers have said. It has no real beginning, starting as it does somewhere nebulous in the beginning of the previous book, and it has no real end due to publishing constraints (A Rising Thunder and Shadow Of Freedom were intended to be all one book, but then got split because it all got too long). Hence why I'm reckoning it'll be much better in hindsight, i.e. when the rest of the series is here so we can just merrily read on through it to the next book.

All that being said, the book does have some stand out moments (the Beowulfan speeches before the Chamber of Stars come forcibly to mind, both of which rival Queen Elizabeth's speech at the end of the last book), and fills in a LOT of plot and setting.

My advice to prospective purchasers, if you haven't bought this already, wait for the paperback and the next one to have come out, then read them all at once. (Also, if you were as psyched as I initially was for the second battle of Manticore, remember that the agressors are Solarians and calm down some...)
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TOP 500 REVIEWERon 9 August 2012
This is the 17th of a group of novels set about two thousand years from now in the future which David Weber initially created for his character Honor Harrington. Of these "A Rising Thunder" is the thirteenth novel in which Honor Harrington herself is the most important character. Currently (Summer 2012) there are seventeen full-length novels set in the same universe at the same approximate time, and this does not include a prequel series set only fifteen hundred years in the future and featuring Honor's ancestor Stephanie Harrington.

The preceding book in the series, "Mission of Honor: Honor Harrington, Book 12" concluded with a handshake between Queen Elizabeth of Manticore and President Pritchard of Haven which marked the final end to the series of wars between these two star nations which dominated the first eleven Honor Harrington books.

I refer to "A Rising Thunder" as a bridge novel, however, because it more or less completes the transition or bridge from a "Ms Hornblower in Space" storyline about a conflict between Manticore (clearly inspired by Britain at the time of Nelson) and Haven (an enemy power which has elements inspired by nazi Germany and soviet Russia but is mainly equivalent to Revolutionary/Napoleonic France), to a different story arc in which the sinister Mesan Alignment is trying to manipulate pretty well the whole galaxy into a gigantic series of wars, including one between Manticore and the vast "Solarian Republic."

During the past few books the situation between Manticore and the Solarian Republic, which is the biggest star nation in the galaxy, has been getting worse and worse. The reader knows, but at first most of the characters don't, that they are being manipulated by the sinister "Mesan Alignment." However it was clear before the start of this book, both to the reader and to many characters in the series, that the entire galactic order is in danger of collapsing into war and chaos.

"A Rising Thunder" largely follows on from "Mission of Honor" except that David Weber adds a little more detail about the trip back home from Mesa of two super-spies who discovered in the book "The Torch Of Freedom" an outline of what the Mesans are really up to. This forces the author to recapitulate a couple of scenes from "Mission of Honor" including the final one when Elizabeth shakes Eloise Pritchard's hand.

Six of the "Honorverse" books covering a slightly earlier phase in the story are organised into three linked but distinct sub-series which portrayed unfolding events with the focus on three different perspectives of the galactic situation, but Weber moved away from that approach with "Mission of Honor" and both that book and this one cover the whole picture.

If you have not read any of the Honorverse books and are interested in doing so, do not start with "A rising thunder" as these stories work far better if read in sequence. Start with the first book, which is "On Basilisk Station (Honor Harrington)."

As hinted above, the first eleven "Honor Harrington books, despite the futuristic setting, exhibited strong parallels with Nelson's navy. Assumed technology in the stories to this point imposed constraints on space navy officers similar to those which the technology of fighting sail imposed on wet navy officers two hundred years ago. Similarly, the galactic situation in the novels up to the eleventh book. "At All Costs" had marked similarities to the strategic and political situation in Europe at the time of the French revolutionary wars. However, particularly after the gigantic battle at the end of that book which roughly corresponds to Trafalgar, the story has started to go in a wholly different direction.

This divergence applies to both the political diplomatic storyline and to naval technology. For the first few books you could see close parallels for the characters, nations and ship classes with those in C.S. Forester's "Hornblower" series or the real history of the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. E.g. Manticore was Britain, Haven was France, Honor Harrington was a mix of Horatio Nelson and Horatio Hornblower, Rob S. Pierre was Robespierre, the Committee of Public Safety was the Committee of Public Safety, "ships of the wall" were ships of the line with superdreadnaughts as first rates, etc, etc. One book, Echoes of Honour (Honorverse) was even an almost exact parallel to the Hornblower book Flying Colours.

However, as the story diverges from that of the Napoleonic wars, so the parallels with 20th century naval warfare or with space battle games like "Starfire" (of which Weber was one of the creators) have become stronger than those with the age of fighting sail. First he brought in Q-Ships, then spaceships which correspond to aircraft and carriers, and a ship type introduced in "Mission of Honor" could be seen as equivalent to submarines.

Before the tensions between Manticore and the Solarian Republic led to actual hostilities, those tensions could be seen as equivalent within Nelson-era parallels as imposing similar strategic considerations on the Manticoran navy that the threat of war with the USA (which, of course, eventually happened as the war of 1812) had on the British Royal Navy prior to 1812. But the Solarian Republic in this story is so much more relatively huge, populous and wealthy relative to Manticore than the infant United States was in 1812 relative to the British Empire, that the Nelson era parallels are no longer helpful.

If you are trying to work out in what order to read the "Honorverse" books, here is a description of the sequence of the first 17 novels. The main sequence of 12 novels prior to this one follows the career of Honor Harrington herself, and consists of

1) On Basilisk Station
2) The Honor of the Queen
3) The Short Victorious War
4) Field of Dishonour
5) Flag in Exile
6) Honor among Enemies
7) In Enemy Hands
8) Echoes of Honor
9) Ashes of Victory
10) War of Honor
11) At All Costs
12) Mission of Honour

I would have considered "A Rising Thunder" to follow in that list because it is the next novel in which Honor Harrington herself is a major character, but David Weber himself apparently does not. The author's website lists only the 12 novels above as the "Honor Harrington" books and then describes all subsequent novels in the same universe including "A rising thunder" as "Honorverse" books. I presume this is because, although she is still a major character, Honor herself does not dominate this book to the extent she does most of the twelve listed above.

The "Torch" or anti-slavery sequence (with Eric Flint as co-author) focusses on the battle for freedom of people who have been held in slavery by "Manpower," which at first is seen as a huge and corrupt company corresponding to the slave trader interests in Britain and America some two hundred years ago. The books with this focus are

(i) Crown of Slaves (set at about the same time as "War of Honor"), and
(ii) Torch of Freedom (set at about the same time as "At All Costs").

The "Shadow" or Talbot Quadrant sequence consists of three books which focus on that area of the Galaxy, and particularly on the rapidly worsening crisis between Honor Harrington's home star nation of Manticore and the Solarian republic. The books to date in this sub-series are

(a) The Shadow of Saganami (overlaps the 1st half of "At All Costs"), and
(b) Storm from the Shadows (overlaps "At All Costs" but starts and finishes later.)
(c) Shadow of Freedom (set at about the same time as this book, "A Rising Thunder")

According to David Weber's website, he is collaborating with Eric Flint to write another Honorverse book which will have a title influenced by Shakespeare's Macbeth: he was originally going to title it "Cauldron of Ghosts" but is now thinking of "Cauldron Boil, Cauldron Bubble."

"Mission of Honor" pulled the threads together again, beginning shortly after the end of "Storm from the Shadows" and taking forward the characters and stories from that book, "At All Costs" and "Torch of Freedom." As explained above, this book then carries the story on after "Mission of Honor."

The most recent book in the Honorverse series as at March 2013, set at about the same time as "A Rising Thunder" (not counting the prequel series) is called "Shadow of Freedom (Honor Harrington)." Before reading this I had assumed from the fact that Baen Books had put Honor Harrington's image on the front cover that it would be the next book about her, but it isn't. As the title infers, this is the third book in the "Shadow" sequence, the main character is Honor's friend Admiral Michelle Henke, and Honor does not appear at all in the book. So it was rather naughty of Baen Books to pur her picture on the cover. Never mind.

I ought for completeness to add that besides the volumes listed above there are several collections in the "Worlds of Honor" series of short stories by Weber and co-authors set in the same universe, and featuring a range of characters, some from the main series of books, others new.

Having mentioned the prequel series I should also explain that one of these short stories was extended to form the first of a new Honorverse series for young adults, with the eponymous novel "A Beautiful Friendship" released in October 2011. It features Stephanie Harrington, a member of an earlier generation of Honor Harrington's family, who lived about 500 years before Honor and was the first human to be "adopted" by a "Treecat," a member of the planet Sphinx's native intelligent species. The Treecats are telepaths among themselves and can read human emotions, and some of them form a lifelong telepathic bond with humans: for example Honor Harrington has been adopted by a treecat called Nimitz.

At the time of updating this review the second book in the prequel series has been published and is called "Fire Season (Star Kingdom)," and this will be followed by "The Treecat wars."

"A Rising Thunder" is slightly shorter than some of the recent books in this series, and a better book for it. Weber has also been working on his tendancy to give far too much detail about the vast size and power of the fleets which his characters are commanding or in which they serve.

The "Mesan Alignment" behind Manpower, who have been moving other characters in the story around like chess pieces for the past few books, began to act more openly with devastating consequences in the last one. But this time they are frantically trying to cover their tracks.

The best way I can think of to give a potentially interested reader a hint to help you decide whether you want to read about these guys, without spoiling the story, is to say that their leader Albrecht Detweiler is what you might get by combining

* Dr Soong from Star Trek Enterprise but without the scruples,

* the rulers of Lois McMaster Bujold's Cetaganda but without the humour, and

* the arch-villian from the James Bond stories, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, without the cat. Honor and some of her friends are the ones with cats - or rather treecats - in this series.

I can recommend this book. My biggest concern about David Weber is that he has so many projects on the go: he says on his own website that

"I have more stories I want to tell than I have time in which to tell them."

He quite rightly adds that this is a better problem than the reverse. At the moment he is working on or considering books in no fewer than eight different series. These are

1) the Honorverse (with sub-series set in various quadrants and different centuries),
2) the Multiverse series which begins with "Hell's Gate" although this one is stalled for the moment while he works on other things,
3) the Bahzell Bahnahkson/War God series in which book four "War Maid's choice" has just come out and there will be at least one more,
4) The Safehold/Nimue Alban series which begins with Off Armageddon Reef); the most recent in this series was "Midst Toil and Tribulation" and the next one will be "Like a mighty army" due September 2013.
5) The Prince Roger/Empire of Man series in which a prequel about the founding of the empire is being considered
6) The Dahak trilogy which he would like to expand to five books by adding a prequel to the currently first book "Mutineer's Moon" and a sequel to the third one, "Heirs of Empire."
7) Dave Weber would also like to write a couple of additional books in the "In Fury Born" universe, and
8) His editor has asked him to consider extending the book "Out of the Dark" to a series.

Wow! That should keep him busy for a few decades!
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on 15 January 2016
The usual high standard of writing. I love all the Honor Harrington books.
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on 14 March 2012
I have read all the other books in this series and was looking forward to this one and even ordered it before it was published...

Did it deliver? I was a little concerned with the first couple of chapters which revealed details of actions which were obvious from the last book, but that seems to be the case in most series, however the book picked up and was very enjoyable.

Not as fast paced solid action as some of the early books in the series, but this one is much more complex, I would say you really need to have read the entire series to get the most out of it.

I think David has got the right mix of action v political story in this one, hence the 5*.

The story arches have finally come back together and I'm already looking forward to the next book.
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on 23 November 2012
Slightly worrying to anyone starting this book is the fact that we get yet another recap of the Solarian League's reaction to the Oyster Bay disaster. In fact, a lot of this feels like a recap as we get repeated instances of members of the Solarian League Navy going "The Manties can't possibly threaten us - we're the Solarian League Navy!", despite the fact that every battle they've faced has been a disaster for them. Overconfidence is one thing when you haven't met the enemy, but when you've already had two Curb Stomp battles, you'd think they'd be a little more circumspect. But no, they launch yet another armada against Manticore that results in over a million casualties.

The main problem is everything is just too easy for our heroes. Not only do the Peeps join the Grand Alliance, which means they can retain a productive capacity (at Bolthole) but even the Mesans don't actually do anything except plot to evacuate before Manticore can arrive. Even when the war was going at the worst for them, at least the Peeps were still presented as a threat - here it seems like the SLN is completely outmatched. Could we have at least one competent Solarian officer to actually use their massive numerical superiority?

I'd heard that DW had had to cut this book for length, which might explain why the ending feels somewhat unresolved. There is a significant fracture within the Solarian League, which is pretty much where it ends. It's more of a set up for the next book, though at least the end is coming into sight (probably).
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on 4 October 2016
A bridging book between two sets of other books, and it also repays a section of one of them. I have been a fan for over 15 years, but am starting to run out of enthusiasm. Not for the casual reader either, I'm hoping the next one is much better.
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on 17 April 2013
Another great harrington adventure, the story does seem to be dragging out a lot which i think detracts from the overall pace that we used to experience in the earlier books. Im not sure if this is all relevant detail for the final book or that its there to fill out the universe. All said and done its still a great book and it seems there shall be plenty more books to come even if the plot evolves just when u think we are getting to the final showdown.
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on 10 March 2012
I think that this is another 'political' - like "Field of Dishonor" - to bridge between more-active stories.
I suspect that Weber is also still mentally 'changing gear'. He commented in an earlier book that he was now trying to achieve his ultimate aim within Honor Harrington's lifespan, instead of leaving the finale to her children; this is to be done by taking up an idea that came from an 'Honorverse' collaborator. As started in "Mission of Honor" he now groups chapters by month (like the 'Safehold' novels); this means that the various threads of the story each advance a little bit at a time in parallel. The mental disconnect this can cause to the reader is best dealt with by reading the whole book (all 450-odd pages) at one sitting. I will admit that I did skip one apparent action sequence during my first reading, because the month-dating showed that it was just a simulation exercise. Once you have the whole picture, you can afford to go back and re-read the bits you want, in whatever order you want, to cement the story in your mind.

It surprised me, when I looked back, that the writing of this series now spans 19 years. It still seems to have some way to go, and this book is as essential and gripping as any, but sufficiently complex to daunt some readers.
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