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TOP 100 REVIEWERon 4 April 2016
This is a very good book, possibly the best one in English, on the Teutoburg disaster where a three-legion plus auxiliaries Roman army was destroyed and Varus, the Governor and commander in chief was killed in 9 AD by a coalition of Germanic tribes lead by one of the chieftains of the Cherusci that the Romans caller Arminius. It dies however have a number of glitches and I would like to start with these before enumerating the multiple qualities of this book.

First of all, the book’s title, which may have been chosen by the publisher for marketing reasons, is somewhat incorrect and misleading. Simply put, the Teutoburg disaster was not “Rome’s greatest defeat”, however one looks at it. Losses resulting from the disasters of Arausio, Cannae or Carrhae were much larger whereas the both the losses and the consequences of the disastrous defeat of Adrianople where the Emperor Valens himself was killed were probably more severe also. The sub-title “Massacre in the Teutoburg Forest” is another example of inaccurate hype. It was not a massacre but a running battle or a series of multiple engagements which, according to one of the sources, may have lasted several days. The Roman losses were huge because the Roman army was trapped and the engagements were fought under the most unfavourable conditions but German losses, which are rarely mentioned, may have been significant if only because the Roman legionaries were not exactly defenceless. Moreover, and the author shows rather well in his book, the last phase of the battle does not seem to have happen in a forested area so that the now consecrated name of “Teutoburg Forest” is in fact incorrect.

A second point that can, at times, become a bit of an issue is a tendency towards anachronism. At one point, the author claims that Arminius’ struggle against Rome had the overtones of a crusade of a djihad. The Germanic tribes did – as many others – dedicate the spoils taken from their enemies to their gods. They did sacrifice prisoners to their gods, but then so did the Romans and this is in fact the origin of gladiators. However, the conflict was not driven by religion and the Germanic tribes do not seem to have such a thing as a concept of Holy War. Another problem is a tendency to draw parallels with may be somewhat superficial with modern conflicts, with mentions of the Afghan war and the British disaster of 1842 and the war in Irak, for the Americans. In both types of cases, this is probably part of the efforts that some authors feel obliged to furnish to bond with the non-specialist reader, however patronising this may feel, in some cases.

A third type of glitch relates more directly to the topic at hand. Unless I am mistaken, Drusus the Elder was the younger brother of Tiberius, and not his elder brother. Also, during the late Republic and the Early Empire, it was the island of Rhodes which was famous for its mercenary slingers alongside those from the Balaric Islands, and not Crete. Crete was famous for its archers since at least the fourth century BC.

Then you are treated to a host of strongpoints, the first of which is probably the amount of ground that this little book of barely more than 200 pages manages to cover. In addition to the battle itself, you will also find a quick discussion of the (exclusively) Roman sources, and the difficulties that this raises, and a brief summary of the reign of Augustus. Also included to provide context is a whole chapter of the numerous campaigns in Germany prior to Varus, with the narrative starting in 17 BC, almost a quarter of a century before the disaster that befell Varus and his troops.

The next chapter is an illuminating piece on Varus’ origins and career. This shows clearly that, in addition to being part of Augustus’ inner circle, he was both an excellent administrator and an experienced general with a shining track record for, among other things, putting down swiftly and competently one of the numerous revolts in Judea following the death of Herod the Great. He was clearly a “safe pair of hands” who meet all the requirements for the third position of Governor to which he was appointed (he had governed both the provinces of Africa and of Syria previously).

The following chapter is about Arminius and his own background, of which we know next to nothing. We know that both he and his brother Flavus served as officers of Roman auxiliary cavalry, possibly each commanding a squadron of Cherusci cavalry and earning coin in serving Rome. We do not know whether they were brought up within the Empire during part of their youth, whether they joined the Roman army as part of some treaty or whether they volunteered on their own as quasi-mercenaries. What does seem sure, however, is that they served in several campaigns in Pannonia. They also learnt Latin and Roman military warfare, and they held very different views. While Flavus was and remained pro-Roman, just like one faction of his tribe, and continued to serve in the Roman army well after his brother’s revolt, Arminius adopted an anti-Roman stance and, after returning to Germany, sought to unite the tribes against Rome and under his leadership. The author then includes an interesting and comprehensive discussion and presentation of Arminius’ motivations to revolt.

The narrative of the disastrous campaign and battle makes up Chapter four. While this only represents some twenty-five pages, these explain clearly how and why Varus got tramped. Essentially, he had no reason to suspect Arminius’ double dealing, quite the opposite in fact. A number of issues are also presented and discussed, such as the quite controversial issue of numbers on each side and the fact that it is rather impossible to reach definitive conclusions since, for the Romans, we simply do not know how understrength the legions and auxiliary cohorts could be and, for the Germanic tribes, we do not know either how many warriors each could field. Implicitly, the author seems to consider that each tribe could field perhaps 5000-6000 so that total forces on both sides would be broadly equivalent. However, this is no more than an educated guess which is fully acknowledged.

The next chapter, one of the book’s longest, deals with the aftermath of the battle until the death of Arminius some ten years later in AD 19 at the age of thirty-seven, when he was murdered by a member of his own family. The chapter includes the Empire’s emergency reactions and measures and shows how badly the events shook the ageing Augustus, how he may have over-reacted to some extent, because the Germanic tribes were never going to invade Gaul or Italy, contrary to what was feared. However, the fall-out was perhaps more of a political disaster – it was a blot on an otherwise pristine record and the loss of three eagles was dishonour for the legions involved which were never reconstituted – as it was a military disaster. Frantic conscription took place and legionaries due for retirement were not discharged.

Also included in the chapter are the mutinies following the death of Augustus and the retaliation campaigns of Germanicus, with their rather mixed successes obtained with heavy casualties. Another very interesting piece is the discussion about the very self-conscious “poster child” and “hero” that Germanicus was, with the author believing, contrary to a more recent biography of Germanicus, that Tiberius’ suspicions with regards to his nephew may not have been totally misplaced and due to jealousy.

I was however puzzled by the author’s claim that Arminius finally won because he pushed back the Romans over the Rhine and managed to consolidate his power. Also puzzling was the claim that “by giving up his call for freedom” and “by trying to meld the tribes into a single nation” he became just another oppressor. Both assessments are rather anachronistic. Rather than create “a single nation”, a concept that was as alien to the Germanic tribes as it was to the Gallic, Hispanic or Briton ones, he tried – and ultimately failed - to assert his dominance over the chieftains of other tribes and of his own, including his family. As for his supposed “call for freedom” as seen through the somewhat misleading eyes of Tacitus, this had perhaps at least as much to do about alliances between the chieftains of various tribes to preserve their power against Roman encroachment, domination and taxes.

Finally, the last two chapters focus upon, respectively, Arminius’ posterity and how he was progressively recast as a legend and a nationalistic German hero and then a rather sinister Nazi one, and upon the finds of Kalkriese and the actual museum. Both chapters are extremely interesting, fascinating and the book would be well worth buying just for these. Four strong stars for a remarkable piece, despite the few glitches.
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on 18 August 2014
Augustus' failure to romanize Germany resonates down to modern times. Until Major Tony Clunn went to work with his metal-detector in the late '80s and struck it rich, nothing was known of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest other than the narratives contained in the literary sources (Velleius Paterculus, Tacitus, Cassius Dio, Suetonius and the late epitomators). While these accounts are fulsome enough on the surface, the whiff of rhetoric - particularly in Cassius Dio - is strong. Much to our loss, Pliny the Elder's German Wars is not extant. The discoveries at Kalkriese transformed the status quo. It confirmed that there was a rolling series of engagements in which the three legions were progressively decimated. Nor was it a "mad charge out of the forest" on the Germans' part: it was a triumph of planning. While the famous cavalry-mask which was found at Kalkriese has come to symbolise the engagement, to my mind the bell that was found on the body of the little donkey is more telling: it had been stuffed with grass - oh yes, by now the Romans knew they were in "Injun Country".

Ever since Clunn's jackpot, the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest has become a cottage industry. This book by Adrian Murdoch is one among many. It's a good general read. The author is at his best when describing Germanicus' arrival at the battlefield some six or so years later in search of the lost eagles. Publius Quinctilius Varus had served as the Governor of Syria (he is mentioned in Luke's Gospel); Murdoch skilfully extrapolates what he can from Varus' involvement in the suppression of a Jewish insurgency to reconstruct the man himself. Come the battle, Murdoch's prose strangely loses heat; it's anticlimactical. Nor does he make much of the aftermath of the battle where the Germans took out their wider frustrations on the prisoners (any centurions so captured were immolated). The book itself is niggardly of maps and photos. Any editor worth their salt would have told Murdoch to delete the references to the Americans in Iraq. And why not include the primary sources in their entirety? Tacitus aside, they are not overly long. A comparison would be fascinating.

All in all, this is a good read but no substitute for QUEST FOR THE LOST ROMAN LEGIONS: Discovering the Varus Battlefield
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on 11 December 2013
If you're interested in the Varian/Kalkriese disaster in AD/CE 9, you need to buy this fine textbook by Adrian Murdoch. Firstly, there aren't many texts out there on this subject, which is surprising, given that it was one of the greatest defeats that Rome ever suffered. Secondly, the ones that are around aren't as well written or presented as this volume. This book is firmly based on research, both of the ancient texts and the archaeological finds in Germany, from the sites of forts to the reputed site of the battle, which is in a little place called Kalkriese, some distance east of the Rhine.

One of the other reviews on here complains that there's not much in this text about the battle itself. That comment reflects the ignorance of the reviewer more than anything else. Like so many events from Roman times, very little material survives about the Kalkriese disaster. If Murdoch had confined himself to that, the book would be very short indeed. Readers would then also miss out on the background to the battle - Rome's campaigns into Germany for the preceding 20 years or so, and descriptions of the German tribes, of Arminius and Varus. After the story of the battle, Murdoch delves into its aftermath, and the effects that the clash had on later German history.

If you were to buy two texts on this famous battle, I would go for this book and one other - a magazine, actually, the 2009 Ancient Warfare special - The Varian Disaster. Buy it at karwansaraypublishers dot com

I give this great textbook five solid stars out of five.

Ben Kane, author of Hannibal: Enemy of Rome and Fields of Blood.
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on 18 January 2009
There are many battles which could be described as "Rome's Greatest Defeat". I'm not sure that I agree this was it but nevertheless I found Adrian Murdoch's book to be an enjoyable and informative read.

Murdoch's book is the story of the ambush and destruction of three Roman legions in the heart of Germany two thousand years ago. Murdoch structures his account logically taking the reader from a point a few decades before the disaster, to the ambush itself and beyond. The final chapters of the book discuss how the battle has been seen at different points in history right up to the present day.

The introductory chapters are good for both the newcomer to Roman history and also those who already have some knowledge. This is a tricky path to tread for any author as it is difficult to keep the experts interested without baffling the novices. Murdoch succeeds because he does a good job of describing how he sees these historical figures that only come to us partly formed from the past.

Murdoch seems to rely fist and foremost on the ancient sources for his description of the disaster but he does also talk about the archaeology involved. I think he combines the two well to give a good, detailed account of the battle itself and the events leading up to and following it. Murdoch's archaeological sources are not just from Germany. He also uses finds from other parts of the world such as Hadrian's Wall to round out the world he is describing.

Indeed, Murdoch makes a lot of effort to recreate the world at that time and I think in this he is very successful. There is a great description of a Roman fort and he drops in nice details such as a brief explanation of the amber trade. In quite a short book (about 200 pages) he really manages to achieve a lot.

There are some faults with the book. I think it could benefit from more pictures of the finds at the site of the battle. A bust of Germanicus is all very well and good but I'd rather be looking at evidence of the battle itself. Also there is no map of the battle site; in my opinion essential for the description of any battle.

While the final chapters are good, for me they don't quite have the interest of the first two thirds of the book. Consequently I think it tails off somewhat towards the end. This is especially true with the author's philosophical concluding comments on the lessons of war.

The book contains a few minor errors such as saying that Lucius Caedicius was both primus pilus and preafectus castrorum (the two were quite different positions in a Roman legion) but for most people these would not spoil the book at all.

There is another book that I've reviewed which also deals with this battle called The Battle That Stopped Rome by Peter S. Wells. While I do like Wells's book (and I think the title is more accurate) I think Murdoch's book is superior.
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on 11 July 2010
Adrian Murdoch's book is a superb account of Rome's frontier with Germania in the first century A D. The build up research work and the way it is delivered is an excellent prelude to the Teutoberg massacre. However very little of the actual battle is known and this account is not the best. The sources used are the most reliable known,and it is difficult to piece together the actual hand to hand fighting. If one is not to aware of the battle,then this is a useful book to familiarise yourself with. The ambush took place over several days in September 9 A D. and the specific locations are difficult to identify. Unless a further reliable account comes to light it is probable we shall never know the full truth of this matter. Adrian Murdoch has made as good a case as i have read for the reasons and people involved, but the battle account leaves a bit to be desired. A decent read but a bit pricey for a paperback.Rome's Greatest Defeat: Massacre in the Teutoburg Forest
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on 30 May 2014
This is a topic that deserves far better coverage than it has so far received. The author himself says that it is shocking how little is written on it.

This is. "Big picture" book ranging from the political machinations of the Roman Empire at the time, the background of the famous Varus right through to the politicisation of the event through history and a nicely detailed description of the discovery of the battlefield itself.

You would have to give the author 10 out of 10 for research and also for confidence in his opinions. He gives a few hefty backhand wallops to inferior writers, which I always find to be fun.

I would have really liked to have seen more on the battle itself, there is a gap in the book over this. Perhaps the writer was uncomfortable with the horror of the actual events?

Anyway, great book on a vital topic. It shows the deep roots of the northern/southern split in Europe and should be a must read for anyone serious about understanding European history.
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on 1 January 2013
I have been reading Military History books since i was a young boy, a pattern evolves with them, there are some that grip you and put you in the front line, you feel the author has first hand knowledge of combat or such a good wordsmith that you think "Yes! That's what took place". Then there's the other ones that are Adrian Murdoch's Rome's Greatest Defeat. It looks the part with Cavalry and Legion shrouded by mist on the cover but i'm afraid that's as good as it gets from a military point of view as the book leans towards Roman politics and German folklore with a bit about the battle sandwiched in-between.
Buyable if you want to hoover all the books up about this battle but i found it dissapointing.
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on 25 November 2014
This books looks at all of the issues relating to the failed Varus campaign east of the Rhine. It also looks into Germany's views of the campaign from the start of the last century when the Nazi's used the defeat as the 'First Reich'. Details of the actual battle are sketchy although archaeology is finding many clues to events. If you are interested in the history you will find this book informative.
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on 15 September 2016
I purchased this book with The Battle That Stopped Rome.I much preferred the latter as Romes Greatest Defeat seems more interested in the modern slant and spin on Arminius which takes up most of the last third of the book.
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on 4 March 2016
One of the best books I have read for a long time on a very important but forgotten event in European history and it gives the romans what they deserved, a good slaughtering Germanic style.
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