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Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 09:38:12 BST
Steve says:
Okay finished arkham asylum,that was a weird one to say the least. Started the man who laughs and it's a much more enjoyable read. Also have tear one and the long halloweenmto get through. Is there an official follow up to the man who laughs.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 10:36:26 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 10:37:21 BST
? says:
If you've not read it I'd suggest reading the the killing joke. The killing joke is as close to a joker origin story as you'll get and the origin is told as a series of flashbacks during a more modern joker story and would be a good read after the man who laughs. If your ploughing through batman then I'll try and post my list of graphic novels which I've compiled over the last few months. It's in chronological order starting from frank millers year one. Their are more books available than my list has but I've tried to stick to the most important and in my opinion best stories.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 10:45:57 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 10:47:34 BST
? says:
Batman graphic novels in chronological order from year one.

# = Owned ~ = Rare/Expensive

# Batman: Year One
# Batman and the monster men
# Batman and the mad monk
# The Man Who Laughs
# Prey
# Gothic
# Venom
# Four of a kind
# The Long Halloween
# Haunted Knight
# Dark Victory
# Catwoman: When in Rome
# Faces
# Robin: Year One
# The Killing Joke
# The Cult
# A Death in the Family
# A Lonely Place of Dying
# Batman vs Bane
#* Knightfall Part One:
#* Knightfall Part Two:
#* Knightfall Part Three: Knights end
~ Batman: Prodigal
~ Batman: Contagion
~ Batman: Legacy
~ Batman: Cataclysm
No Man's Land Vol.1 No man's land story has been reprinted in 2012 and condensed into 3 volumes instead of 5. Plus a few missing stories have been added back to make these reprints the most complete editions to own.
# No Man's Land Vol.2
# No Man's Land Vol.3
Bruce Wayne: Murderer?
Bruce Wayne: Fugitive Vol.1
Bruce Wayne: Fugitive Vol. 2
Bruce Wayne: Fugitive Vol.3
# Hush
Hush Returns
# Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
Superman/Batman: Supergirl
Superman/Batman: Absolute Power
Superman/Batman: Vengeance
# War Drums
# War Games Act One: Outbreak
War Games Act Two: Tides
War Games act Three: Endgame
# Identity Crisis
Under the Hood Vol.1
War crimes
Under the Hood Vol.2
# Infinite Crisis
Face the Face
Batman: Detective
Death and the City
# Cacophony
The widening gyre
Batman and Son
The Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul
Batman: Private Casebook
The Black Glove
Gotham Underground
Heart of Hush
Final crisis
Batman R.I.P.
Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?
Battle for the Cowl
Long Shadows
Batman and Robin: Batman Reborn
Batman and Robin: Batman vs. Robin
Life After Death
Arkham Reborn
Time and the Batman
The Return of Bruce Wayne Bruce Wayne: The Road Home
Batman and Robin: Batman Must Die!
Batman: The Return Eye of the Beholder
The Black Mirror
# The Dark Knight Vol.1 Golden Dawn
Batman and Robin: Dark Knight, White Knight
Gotham Shall Be Judged
Batman Incorporated, Vol. 1

Further essential standalone novels:

# All Star Batman & Robin
# Noel
#* Arkham City
# Gotham City Impostors
#* The Dark Knight Returns
#* The Dark Knight Strikes Again
#* Arkham Asylum
#* The Judge Dredd files

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 11:51:25 BST
Steve says:
okay that may take awhile,thanks wayne for taking the time to put the list up.I am sure it will give alot of people a better insight into what to read.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 11:58:38 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 12:00:27 BST
? says:
To be honest you don't have to follow my list verbatim, you could dip in and out of that list as long as you read them in order. For example the most important stories would be year one followed by long Halloween then dark victory, then killing joke, then death in the family, then the knightfall saga followed by no man's land.

You could then skip most of the rest until batman and son which was the start of the grant Morrison story arc and follow the list up till batman incorporated.

Everything would still make sense and be in a sort of order although you would miss great stories like hush for example.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 13:32:08 BST
Steve says:
Ah right,I have at the minute year one ,the long halloween and the man who laughs. So i will read in that order.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 14:40:43 BST
Jay Kahy says:
Wayne, where does Batgirl Year One enter into continuity?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2012, 15:19:11 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 15:19:38 BST
? says:
" Wayne, where does Batgirl Year One enter into continuity?"

Not sure to be honest. I had to keep my list down to a reasonable size otherwise I'd never get through them all and decided not to bother with batgirl. One of the reasons I did this was that batgirl doesn't seem to crossover into batman very much. Most of the major story arcs in my list don't feature and don't even mention her.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2012, 17:48:34 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 17:51:56 BST
Cerberus says:
DG_O

tradereadingorder.com/character/batgirl/

Reading from new 52 issue 1 onwards for Batgirl, Batwoman and Birds of Prey myself and you get the odd issue that's a tiny bit slow but on the whole enjoying it.

Killing joke took place three years before the current stuff, but you'll be fine if you know what happened in killing joke and then straight in with the new Gail Simone stuff.

EDIT

Give a look to Batwoman too if possible as Kate Kane's a great character too.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 18:44:13 BST
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Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 18:54:08 BST
Cerberus says:
Adam on BEFORE WATCHMEN

Well, the word is out: DC Comics is returning to the world of WATCHMEN! And I am drawing all four issues of the DOCTOR MANHATTAN miniseries. First sign of the Apocalypse? You bet!

It's great to finally be able to talk about this project. I signed on AGES ago, and have kept mum about it, until now!

WATCHMEN is arguably the greatest superhero comic ever produced, and without a doubt my absolute favorite. Being allowed to draw these amazing characters isn't actually a dream come true: I never thought something like this would happen. I'm pretty nervous, but having fun so far.

My history with WATCHMEN goes way back. In 1986 I was working at Thunder Road Comics in Burlington, New Jersey, and I sold every issue of WATCHMEN as they came out. It was a pretty amazing time: THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS was also shipping, so superhero comics were enjoying a banner year. The mullets, parachute pants, and New Coke made up for it, though. YIKES.

Several years back, I was one of the first artists to contribute designs to Zack Snyder's film adaption of WATCHMEN. I mean, I only worked on the film for, like, eight minutes, but I cast a long shadow! Did you like Silk Spectre in latex? That was ALL ME. That's right - I'm preening!

So, you see, I have some strange sort of orbital relationship to WATCHMEN. I feel pretty honored to be working it. I'm looking forward to drawing all these characters. Yes, DOCTOR MANHATTAN is an unusual choice to assign me to, but I'm assured that DC has a plan! Maybe they believe that, since I'm well-associated with drawing female anatomy, I'm qualified to handle blue penises. Wait... that doesn't sound right...

I love Alan Moore's canon of work, with special affection for MIRACLEMAN, THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN, and most definitely WATCHMEN. I hope to do some sort of justice to Dave Gibbon's brilliant art: he's one of the all time great illustrators ever to work in the field of comics, and I have a serious case of "My LAST boyfriend was a porn star!" performance anxiety when it comes to bringing his beloved characters to life. I've only met Dave twice: he was drunk both times, and holding an award both times as well (I'd celebrate, too, if I won awards). I hope that if I get to see him again, we'll manage a congenial hat trick of insobriety, and that he doesn't go all 'soccer hooligan' on my ass. "Those are MY characters, you apocalyptically colonial wanker!!"

I'm fairly stoked to be working with the fabulous J.M. Straczynksi. I loved his THOR run, especially. The man knows how to craft amazing tales, so I feel like you & I are in good hands.

So! I should get back to drawing Dr. Osterman, in all his phosphorescent azure glory: this miniseries has to ship in summer 2012, and no one will ever accuse me of being fast.

~AH!~

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2012, 19:11:55 BST
Cerberus says:
BATMAN
Recommended Reading Order

tradereadingorder.com/character/batman/

lol flipping heck.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 19:41:00 BST
Cerb, I have all of Jim Lee's Uncanny and X-men runs in mint condition. They are some of the best illustrated issues ever as at the time he was literally leagues beyond any other comic book artist. Then the Kuberts came along...my comic book collection absolutely ridiculous. They take up an entire cupboard of about 2mx0.75mx2m. I checked how much to insure them and the premium was so expensive I couldn't afford it!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2012, 20:10:42 BST
Last edited by the author on 17 Jul 2012, 20:11:24 BST
Cerberus says:
@@ron

Yeah Jim Lee is a gifted so and so, I have X-Men that he started from issue 1 with the fold-out cover and Magneto built like a brick poo house on it as a burned in memory lol.

So many great artists working in the comics industry these days and I'm pleased Adam Hughes ( check his site out for what he can do if you don't know his works www.justsayah.com ) is working with J.M. Straczynksi for this new Watchmen stuff... more purchases each month.

Posted on 17 Jul 2012, 20:41:18 BST
Jay Kahy says:
"Give a look to Batwoman too if possible as Kate Kane's a great character too."

Oh yes, I loved her original run in Detective Comics from a few years back (was it when Bruce Wayne / Batman was dead?). Excellent story and stunning art. One of my highlights in comics from the past decade.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2012, 22:14:54 BST
Cerberus says:
Shame it's not a Kate Kane Batwoman in the new Bat film.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 13:09:49 BST
Last edited by the author on 18 Jul 2012, 13:11:44 BST
Jay Kahy says:
Any Bat fans interested there's lightning deals going on at the moment. DVD/Blu-ray boxsets of the current Batman movies, as well as Arkham City discounted. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Batman-Movie-TV-DVD-Blu-ray/b/ref=amb_link_169318627_3?ie=UTF8&node=668421011&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=right-csm-1&pf_rd_r=0QXSG5CESDMQPV7B72RX&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=316225887&pf_rd_i=468294

Dark Knight Trilogy is also listed for pre-order (but obviously not part of the lightning deals)!

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 13:41:12 BST
howmuch75 says:
Jim lee is still the best "comic" artist,although I loved dale keown,travis charest and Todd McFarlane. And yes at the moment there are tons of great artists out there I love the guys on skullkickers and I vampire.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jul 2012, 17:49:58 BST
Last edited by the author on 18 Jul 2012, 17:50:20 BST
Cerberus says:
Don't think I could call Jim Lee the best, my favourite artists are in no order

Otomo Katsuhiro
Jim Lee
Simon Bisley
Sami Basri
Masamune Shirow
Jim Cheung
Brian Bolland
J. H. Williams III
Adam Hughes
Alex Ross
Hayo Miyazaki

lol this list could go on and on so I'll stop now.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 18:01:01 BST
Last edited by the author on 18 Jul 2012, 18:02:29 BST
I'm a big fan of Charest but he took about 3 months to draw one book!
Chris Bachalo
Joe Mad
Adam Kubert
Lenil Yu
Finch is just amazing.

Verb, for some reason I particularly remember the way Jim Lee draw Psylocke. Ah....puberty.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 18:15:46 BST
Jay Kahy says:
My current favourite artists are Frazer Irving and J. H. Williams III.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 18:52:07 BST
The new Watchmen mini series saddens me. Why can't people leave something that stands alone and is remarkable for it remain like that?

Just renewed my subscription to 2000 AD and Judge Dredd Magazine. They're still producing some of the best storylines in comics. A must for any British comic book fan IMHO.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 19:09:29 BST
Cerberus says:
"The new Watchmen mini series saddens me. Why can't people leave something that stands alone and is remarkable for it remain like that? "

Why ? they are putting some great teams on them, if giving more on a great set of characters that have been left to gather plenty of dust is a bad thing even if they are a great read ( they have done very well review wise ) is a bad thing then wow.

Posted on 18 Jul 2012, 19:19:40 BST
Last edited by the author on 18 Jul 2012, 19:26:41 BST
"Watchmen was something that stood on its own and it had the integrity of a literary work. What they've decided now is, 'So, let's change it to a regular comic that can run indefinitely and have spin-offs."- A. Moore

From the interview:

"Question:: You don't see the characters working independently of Watchmen?

Moore: I don't think they will. They weren't designed to work like that, and I'm the person who designed them. They were designed to work in an ensemble piece. They're in some ways very generic characters--deliberately so. They were kind of archetypal comic book characters, or were intended as such. So, no I don't think this can work creatively. I mean, that does my work for me to a certain degree. All the nasty comments that I was making when I was angry--about the comics industry not having had an idea of its own in the last 40 years and not having sufficient talent anymore to create new ideas--these are very unkind things to say about an entire industry. But, it would seem that DC are really going that extra mile in trying to prove me incontrovertibly right. And, I can only imagine that these prequels are some part of that drive on their part."

Lets hope for a Crime and Punishment, The Plague and Glass Bead Game sequels. This mentality of creating unique characters and exploring stories with them is fine but when a set of individual stories elevates the medium and are fully rounded creations then leave them the frik alone. Wow indeed.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jul 2012, 19:36:14 BST
Last edited by the author on 18 Jul 2012, 19:40:43 BST
Cerberus says:
"Watchmen was something that stood on its own and it had the integrity of a literary work. What they've decided now is, 'So, let's change it to a regular comic that can run indefinitely and have spin-offs."- A. Moore"

Comedian 1-6
Dr. Manhattan 1-4
Minutemen 1-6
Nite Owl 1-4
Ozymandias 1-6
Rorschach 1-4
Silk Spectre 1-4

Really ?

Sounds like a bitter twisted old man to me, Like I said, if they were terrible and just did it for cash fair enough but that's not the case is it ?

Wasn't the Watchmen a copy of another group that got a little too close ? The Charlton Heroes maybe ?
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