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Should Amazon abolish campaign voting on forum discussions?

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Initial post: 6 Jun 2010, 10:06:11 BST
Danny says:
Ok, so pretty much everybody agrees that the review vote changes introduced by Amazon are at least better than the old way of doing things.

I'm wondering whether Amazon need to introduce a similar thing to votes on comments left in a forum. Actually, I couldn't care, but I did notice that another poster was put off by them, so thought it would be an interesting topic of debate.

What I would put forward as an initial suggestion is this.

On a Per Thread basis, limit the positive or negative votes that one person can leave for another to 3. If you leave a fourth it will register, but the first one you left will disappear.*

As an optional extra. If you have hit your maximum on 10 threads, any future votes will be discounted.

Any (friendly) comments?

*Actually, it would be good if that applied to reviews as well.

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 10:19:08 BST
Ethereal says:
Your suggestion MT may or may not be an improvement of the current system but I can't be bothered to think about it in that much depth, to be honest.
I agree with Damaskcat's earlier comment that votes shouldn't be taken so seriously, and I've found that comes with time here.
I can also see Norma Jean's viewpoint and it must be harder than votes on discussions, when you (should) have put effort into writing a review then to feel it's being targetted.
So I still think to leave a vote positive or negative you should have to comment as to why (see Abolish Negative Vote thread).

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 10:25:05 BST
Danny says:
I'm with damaskcat too. I thought, by your comment on the other thread, that you were bothered my them though. I only started this as a fresh conversation topic, it doesn't actually bother me.

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 10:27:45 BST
Damaskcat says:
I agree with you. No one quite knows how the anti campaign software works anyway for reviews but I would have thought Amazon could apply the same principle to voting on comments on the forums. I can't ever see the point of voting against comments anyway since most comments DO add to the discussion. Even if I disagree with a comment I will still vote 'yes' for that very reason.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jun 2010, 10:35:53 BST
Last edited by the author on 6 Jun 2010, 10:36:21 BST
Ethereal says:
Time and perspective MT - that's not to say if I feel targetted again I won't get upset! I appreciate the thought though.
I can't remember which thread I read it on a few minutes ago, but your suggestion to Norma Jean about contacting Amazon to investigate whether her reviews are being targetted is a brilliant one. I'll bear it in mind if I do think it's happening to me.

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 10:40:34 BST
Molly Brown says:
I'm not bothered about votes on these discussions, they are not important, although they can help you if they make you think about what you are saying, is adding or detracting from the discussion. After all Mark, if you remember, I initially tried in a friendly manner a couple of times to get back to the point of the discussion when you were going hammer and tongue at Neurosplicer page after boring page. Many others did too at the time.

It seems Mark, whereas you say you don't care what people vote about you, you do care really. Probably because a lot of people vote you as NOT adding to the discussions.

More important is the targeting of votes against reviews, for clear reasons of spite or manipulation, nearly always anonymous.
So let us get that sorted out first, well, we are powerless really unless Amazon take any notice of these forums. Financially it would be more beneficial for them to try and stop these arguments getting out of hand, as this stops highly potential buyers looking at their recommendations, or posters exchanging ideas and product links, which is what the main purpose of these forums is.

Amazon are not funding these forums out of the goodness of their hearts, it is all about increasing sales. I know, as I have bought items recommended by other posters that I would have been otherwise unaware of. Amazon's recommendations aren't very accurate when a computer attempts to work out what kind of things I might be interested in. (Simple stereotyping).

Many, if not most people don't even notice the yes/no votes on the right hand side anyway. You are simply getting away from the real point.
(I have tried to write this in a non agressive way, hard to be too friendly with you after the history).

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 10:44:36 BST
Last edited by the author on 6 Jun 2010, 10:45:47 BST
JJG says:
Well, I've just voted down that post, it was a polite thread before this appeared...

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jun 2010, 11:03:22 BST
Damaskcat says:
JJ G - I didn't vote it down but I agree with you.

Posted on 6 Jun 2010, 11:25:21 BST
Danny says:
Norma Jean, this is how a forum works.

Somebody decides on a topic, and starts a thread on it. People read it, comment or ignore. Somebody else starts another topic. People read it, comment or ignore. Now there are two threads going, possibly more. Thats a load of different topics, which you can pick and choose to read or ignore. If you have a comment about topic A, you make it in thread A. If you have a comment about topic B, you make it in thread B. You can have comments about topic A and topic B concurrently. That is allowed.

I am not getting away from the "real point". This thread has its own topic. If you would rather talk about another topic, then post on the other thread.
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