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Would anyone visit me if I was in hospital?


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Initial post: 2 Mar 2013 16:38:02 GMT
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Posted on 2 Mar 2013 17:57:43 GMT
No.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 02:35:42 GMT
Last edited by the author on 3 Mar 2013 02:40:23 GMT
light says:
"Screw you guys, i'm going home!"

Do you live near South Park ;o)

"The Talmud (Baba Metzia 30b) says that "He who visits a sick person takes away one-sixtieth of their illness." The idea is that your visit helps reduce/mitigate/lighten the sick person's suffering."

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 07:54:45 GMT
J.Yasimoto says:
Does the "The Talmud (Baba Metzia 30b)" go on to say that if you are visited by 60 people, you are cured?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 09:11:14 GMT
Drew Jones says:
Does one visit act as an inoculation then? Wouldn't multiple visits have the danger of transferring the illness?

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 13:30:23 GMT
Bellatori says:
Me neither...

Posted on 3 Mar 2013 18:51:49 GMT
S.R.J says:
A friend of mine was in hospital for 2 nights recently, I berated him ferociously for not informing me...I wanted to visit him with a bag of grapes..would have to be within brown paper bag of course, I would have sat by his bedside eating them, perhaps offering him the odd grape, asking 'hows the food'..and 'when do you expect to be out' etc etc and then left...the fact he denied me this opportunity annoyed me. He promised to inform me instantly of future admissions.
S.R.J

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 20:21:45 GMT
Too far away. Get in touch with the hospital chaplain.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 22:47:37 GMT
Ian says:
The last time I was in hospital my father went out of his way to find me some grapes. The rest of my family could not understand his thoughtfulness or why he was so sure I would want grapes. The joke was wasted on them.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Mar 2013 22:50:16 GMT
Ian says:
After one visitor you would have 59/60 of your illness.

The next visitor would take away 1/60 of the illness remaining at the time of their visit.

My maths isn't up to this but it seems clear you'll get better but never get well.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 01:45:54 GMT
light says:
"Wouldn't multiple visits have the danger of transferring the illness?"

Not if it's a noncommunicable disease.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 01:52:54 GMT
light says:
"Does the "The Talmud (Baba Metzia 30b)" go on to say that if you are visited by 60 people, you are cured?"

It goes further than just visiting, there is a practical reason for visiting a sick person:

"The Beis Yosef quotes the Ramban to the effect that the purpose of visiting the sick is to clean the patient's house, provide for his needs, and to keep him company, as well as to pray for him, since someone who visits a sick person without praying for him does not fulfill the mitzvah. The Rema (335:4) quotes this Ramban and agrees that someone who visits a sick person but does not pray for his recovery has not fulfilled this mitzvah."

So a visitor must help the sick person in any way that they can, this eases the patients mind and helps him to feel loved and cared for relieving him of stress which could hinder his recovery.

Posted on 4 Mar 2013 11:33:34 GMT
Spin says:
A person who is physically ill can be mentally revived through a simple genuine act of care and concern. We may not be able to cure the physical ill, but that does not mean we should ignore that which essential to our survival; humanity.

Posted on 4 Mar 2013 11:36:28 GMT
Bellatori says:
If we assume a 3 sigma probability that you are cured by repeated 1/60 visits it should be easy to work out how many people must visit you before you are discharged...

If I found this of any interest at all I might have done the calculation as it is simple enough but "frankly Scarlet...."

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 12:31:49 GMT
Scarlet Lady says:
Scarlet? who called?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 12:34:14 GMT
Spin says:
Bellatori: More apt, I think is; "I have always relied on the kindness of strangers..." =)

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 12:38:37 GMT
Bellatori says:
Pathetic, I know, but it is part of the Ret Butler quote from 'Gone with the Wind' !?

Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a damn...

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 12:44:00 GMT
Spin says:
Bellatori: At the time of its release, that film caused a scandal simply by its use of the word "damn". God forbid that audience ever saw a "Bottom" live show =)

Posted on 4 Mar 2013 12:49:49 GMT
Bellatori says:
By the way... sad git that I am, I estimate that a 3 sigma cure requires about 370 visitors give or take...

That's a hell of a lot of grapes and the skins can be a bit of a bowel irritant...

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 12:56:57 GMT
Spin says:
Bellatori; Like eating peanuts...Nothing presents your own mortality to you more than seeing the food you ate an hour earlier floating in a porcelain bowl...=)

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 13:31:05 GMT
Scarlet Lady says:
Sweetcorn anyone?

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 13:33:12 GMT
Drew Jones says:
You might want to take a look back at what the Talmud proposes then.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 13:34:06 GMT
Scarlet Lady says:
Mr Bellatori - Funnily enough was thinking of said film while squashed on the Jubilee Line at North Greenwich, sandwiched between Dandruff and Body Odour (not my own I hasten to add) Funny how it is always the Ashley's of this world us females pine for... but end up with the Rhett's. (tickly mushtache and bad breath)

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Mar 2013 13:36:26 GMT
Spin says:
A; =) I personally wonder why the hell we all look into the bowl after we drop one... Seagulls don't take a peek at the guy they squirt...=)
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