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The Spiritual Truth - where love is not, truth is a dead letter and profits nothing


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Initial post: 6 Dec 2012, 23:25:55 GMT
Last edited by the author on 9 Dec 2012, 12:21:25 GMT
Lela says:
(There is a claim that these words on TRUTH have been said by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. However, since there is no proof or evidence that Jesus existed, we do not know who the author of these words is. So it woud be very interesting if someone investigates and finds out who the author of these words was)

Interesting thoughts on Truth :

What is Truth? for the same things appear different to different minds, and even to the same mind at different times. What, then, is Truth?

The Truth has many sides, and one sees one side only, another sees another, and some see more than others, according as to their understanding capacity.

Behold a crystal: how the one light its manifest in twelve faces, yea four times twelve, and each face reflects one ray of light, and one regards one face, and another another, but it is the one crystal and the one light that shines in all.

When one climbs a mountain and attaining one height, he says, This is the top of the mountain, let us reach it, and when they have reached that height, they see another beyond it until they come to that height from which no other height is to be seen, if so be they can attain it.

So it is with Truth.
That which appears true to some, seems not true to others. They who are in the valley see not as they who are on the hill top.
But to each, it is the Truth as the one mind sees it, and for that time, till a higher Truth shall be revealed unto the same: and to the soul which receives higher light, shall be given more light.

As you keep the holy Law of Love, so shall the Truth be revealed more and more unto you, and the Spirit of Truth shall guide you.

Be faithful to the light you have, till a higher light is given to you. Seek more light, and you shall have abundantly; rest not, till you find.

The Truth is a ladder with many steps, for the salvation and perfection of the soul, and the truth which seems today, you will abandon for the higher truth of the tomorrow. Press you unto Perfection.

Love is the fulfilling of the Law.
They who have love have all things, and without love there is nothing worth. Let each hold what they see to be the truth in love, knowing that where love is not, truth is a dead letter and profiteth nothing. If any have hatred to their fellows, and harden their hearts, how can they see Truth?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 00:04:13 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Dec 2012, 02:19:32 GMT
light says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 05:20:16 GMT
Copy and paste?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 05:28:27 GMT
light says:
There's nothing wrong with that.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 06:09:05 GMT
Without indicating the source or even that it is copied? Yes, there is.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 07:46:54 GMT
Ian says:
Only when by "light" you mean something other than electromagnetic radiation and you consider crystals to have magical healing powers.

Posted on 7 Dec 2012, 07:58:51 GMT
Vacuous - adj

1. containing nothing; empty
2. bereft of ideas or intelligence; mindless
3. characterized by or resulting from vacancy of mind: a vacuous gaze
4. indulging in no useful mental or physical activity; idle
5. logic, maths (of an operator or expression) having no import; idle: in (x) (John is tall) the quantifier (x) is vacuous

[C17: from Latin vacuus empty, from vacāre to be empty]

Collins English Dictionary

Posted on 7 Dec 2012, 08:44:47 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
'As you keep the holy Law of Love, so shall the Truth be revealed more and more unto you, and the Spirit of Truth shall guide you. '

What truth? What guidance? What spirit? I hear the tinkling of Glastonbury bells..my past has come back to haunt me.

Are there any other non airy fairy atheist women out there? Am I the only one? Good grief...

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 08:58:06 GMT
Drew Jones says:
"Great post, it has much truth in it!"
15 'Truths' to be precise. No validity though.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 09:32:21 GMT
There was Isobel, but she doesn't post on the religion forum anymore.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 10:22:02 GMT
Lela says:
Thanks light

It was quite philosophical in my opinion and it can be applied to different kind of situations.
But without the fairy tales attached.
People who read it, please do not try to turn everything to religion or atheism or whatever.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 10:53:50 GMT
Lela,

Who has tried to turn this thread to religion or atheism?

And did you copy and paste the OP? If you did, could you attribute it to the author?

Posted on 7 Dec 2012, 10:58:29 GMT
Huck Flynn says:
all very confusing - is Truth a ladder, a crystal or a dead letter - an elusive bvgger and that's for sure

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 11:17:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Dec 2012, 11:17:48 GMT
It seems to be from the "Gospel of the Nazarenes".

Chapter 90, bottom of the page. Not a direct cut 'n' paste, it'll be from some new age/spiritual site.

http://nazirene.org/gospel_nine.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_the_Nazarenes

Posted on 7 Dec 2012, 11:57:16 GMT
nephran says:
That's another 3 mins i'll never get back..

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 12:17:31 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Hi Karen- my mrs, but she leaves the posting to me!

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 12:19:08 GMT
C. A. Small says:
You might relive it though during your final moments as your life flashes before your eyes. Something to look forward to, or not.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 13:46:51 GMT
Lela says:
Sam, we are not at school to worry about plagiarism.
This is only for you: " Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens"

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 14:31:00 GMT
K. Hoyles says:
Hi Clive, I tried the 'new age-ey' lifestyle back in the '80's, couldn't make any sense of it then, and still can't. I tried NLP, spiritual healing, crystals, I've had my aura cleansed...there's nothing to learn except how to be deeply introspective, all packaged in pretty pseudo talk. 'Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens' is typical. A good nights sleep and a glass or two of good wine is all the spiritual enlightenment I need these days.
K

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 14:37:13 GMT
AJ Murray says:
Knowledge speaks
Wisdom listens
Vacuousness copies and pastes

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 14:43:24 GMT
Drew Jones says:
"Sam, we are not at school to worry about plagiarism."
Actually plagiarism is a serious issue in academia and schools because it doesn't take any intelligence to reproduce others work.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 15:06:53 GMT
Lela says:
Drew, I do not share my "own thesis" with people I do not know! So just see my posts as a little library which you either read or delete!

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 15:54:22 GMT
Tom M says:
Hi Lela

Excellent post. The commandments are guideposts of the mind, like posted speed limits, to keep us on our journey to love.

Thanks

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 15:58:07 GMT
Tom M says:
Drew apparently thinks truth and validity can be in conflict. Apparently he confuses truth with the mere tool, logic and prescinds from the experience of corporeal reality which the intellect apprehends. Leaving only inexpressible noise or incoherence, the antipode of truth.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012, 16:09:39 GMT
Drew Jones says:
"Drew apparently thinks truth and validity can be in conflict."
No I don't. But I do think that the argument by assertion is a logical fallacy. I also don't think peppering your stream of consciousness with the word 'Truth' gives it validity.

"Apparently he confuses truth with the mere tool, logic and prescinds from the experience of corporeal reality which the intellect apprehends. Leaving only inexpressible noise or incoherence, the antipode of truth."
Do you think that repeating the word 'Truth' when appealing to analogies is a guarantee to validity 'Tom'?
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