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All-loving, all-merciful Christian God discriminates against the handicapped


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Posted on 24 Feb 2013 19:25:42 GMT
Your desperation and sloganeering is entertaining, DB. It happens every time you trap yourself into a corner.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 19:28:53 GMT
Bellatori says:
Once again you wriggle and evade the question. You are doing what seems to be your trademark and simply ignoring the difficult ones.

You did not answer the question why Stalin was so anti-Christian.... nor have you answered why your vindictive and hate filled god wiped out 25% of humanity in the 14th century and >95% of humanity back at the great flood.

Either of those leave Comrade Jo in the shade.

Of course I do not expect an answer because you do not have one.

Posted on 24 Feb 2013 19:37:36 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Feb 2013 20:43:14 GMT
As for atheism being unworkable, I can only assume you either don't live in Britain, or are a chronic agoraphobe.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 19:54:17 GMT
"In China, Russia, Vietnam, Korea etc etc, they are indistinguishable, and atheism is forcibly endorsed."

Not Vietnam, they're quite a religious bunch there.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 19:58:41 GMT
Bellatori says:
Agreed...I think you will also find that in Russia the Orthodox church is flavour of the month at the moment and Vlad the Putin claims to have religion. They are also the biggest bunch of fascists going. They make the RC church look like doctrinal pussy cats!

Posted on 24 Feb 2013 20:16:00 GMT
J. Forbes says:
I suspect that DB would claim that religious belief is growing in Russia. The reality is that it was suppressed, and is now re-emerging, which is not growth in any real sense. Amongst educated young people I suspect it is very low.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 20:40:21 GMT
DB says:
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Posted on 24 Feb 2013 20:46:43 GMT
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For a moment there it looked like you were trying to paint Britain as the land where faith prevails, and equate the ratings for a TV programme as a sign of it...

... both of which would be too dim-witted for words, even for you.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:12:45 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Feb 2013 21:18:14 GMT
Pendragon says:
Diane

You say "I don't know why there was a flood." Really?

The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them." [Gen 6:5-7]

The "why" seems clear enough.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:17:25 GMT
Pendragon says:
Bella

"and >95% of humanity back at the great flood."

Only 95%?

The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits. Every living thing that moved on land perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. [Gen 7:20-23]

Interesting that Moses found it necessary to present three alternative formulations of the description of near total extermination.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:18:26 GMT
DB says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:20:32 GMT
J. Forbes says:
God must have had quite a job ferrying in enough water to cover the globe to a depth of 15 cubits on the top of Everest.

Unless it was just a local flood, and Noah was exaggerating a little.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:21:29 GMT
J. Forbes says:
Bella wasn't asking Pen, he was asking you.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:23:55 GMT
Pendragon says:
Diane

"if i had done that i would have been accused of avoiding the question". Quite probably! ;)
But at any rate it seems you accept the explanation. How could you not?

"I'm sure Bellatori will accept this answer from you."
How so sure? Bellatori may not know me. And in any event he may disagree. Why break the habit of this disputatious thread?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:27:42 GMT
Pendragon says:
JF

Indeed. In fact "a depth of more than fifteen cubits" above Everest.

Think of the length of a water slide from that height! Thorpe Water Park eat your heart out.

Exaggeration? Not possible. Moses wrote it. You may have heard of him.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:36:27 GMT
DB says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:44:01 GMT
Norm Deplume says:
Diane,

The OT is not relevant to your beliefs? Where does your god first appear then?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:45:35 GMT
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo please don't start the 'where did the water come from' question because that will only lead to 'where did all the water go' and you really don't want a mouth full of beer when you read the answer to that one!

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:47:44 GMT
DB says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 21:54:24 GMT
Norm Deplume says:
Diane,

What did you mean by "ask the Jews, it's their history after all"? The implication (which I indicated as tentative by a question mark) was that the OT was irrelevant to *your* religion. If it is not then why do you avoid discussing it?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 22:01:10 GMT
yes the OT very much contains the ancient history of the Jews from a religious perspective. their God is Yahweh and Jesus was a Jew and his teachings were based on the Scriptures as they existed and were known in his time. their 'history' presents the history of their dealings with Yahweh, the same god that the Christians accept as theirs so isn't the history of their god the same as the history of the Christian god? well at least up to the point where Christians start to believe that Jesus is god at which point they split apart!

Posted on 24 Feb 2013 22:04:09 GMT
J. Forbes says:
I wonder why the fathers of the church saw fit to include the OT in the Holy Bible. I had always supposed that it was in some way relevant. Background material, and all that. But perhaps it was just a massive joke to put atheists off the scent.

Those early fathers! Eh? Humourists, the lot of 'em.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 22:17:00 GMT
DB says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Feb 2013 22:40:29 GMT
Pendragon says:
Tired?

I don't need to ask the Jews about the OT, although I am grateful for the suggestion.

It may be the history of the Jews.

But it is your god also. Or are you saying it's not?
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