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Why meditation does not work.


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Initial post: 24 Mar 2012, 05:19:55 GMT
Old and outdated....

Meditation ignores the reality of the brain and the reality of the mind. All that sitting about....staring at candles or watching the breath.....why?....what's the point...

"To be here now".....why do you need to meditate to do that?....simpy DO IT.....cut out the nonsense...

"To clear away delusions and distortions"....as these are linguistic in structure go to the root....change your words...change your mind...

Meditation is a major con that is accepted by many people because they fail to question its validity...meditation will never work if your brain is "faulty"....low serotonin....too much amygdala...too little left PFC!

Wakey uppey NOW!

Posted on 24 Mar 2012, 08:59:22 GMT
You could do with little more meditation and a little less posting....but seriously you are getting quite boring now, why don't you be a good little scientist and keep your nonsense in the lab or at least the science forum

Posted on 24 Mar 2012, 09:18:57 GMT
DB says:
Or if that doesn't work, try saying the rosary. It will lift your spirit and calm you.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 10:21:53 GMT
Dear KK....all about "being boring" I learned from you....

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 12:04:42 GMT
SB, that's embarrassing for me, I never knew I gave out a course in the subject, did you pay me for it?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 14:02:56 GMT
KK.....just your powerful presence is enough.....

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 14:39:01 GMT
You must have meditated really well to feel my presence...

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 15:21:22 GMT
High PFC functions..

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 15:24:45 GMT
how many functions does a Perfect Fried Chicken serve?

Posted on 24 Mar 2012, 15:31:13 GMT
If you think meditation does not work, you have never experienced true meditation.
Your reply to William Missett's post:
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 16:06:25 GMT
Ah....Billy adds a HOA and goes "told ya"!

Posted on 24 Mar 2012, 17:22:55 GMT
DB says:
simon and keyboard
Are you sure it's meditation and not medication you are talking about?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Mar 2012, 18:03:56 GMT
neither, its all about mastication for the nation

Posted on 24 Mar 2012, 23:00:03 GMT
Does anyone here actually know anything about meditation?

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Mar 2012, 00:12:21 GMT
What do you want to know?

Posted on 30 Mar 2012, 23:37:02 BST
What is it that you do, personally and what is your experience with it?

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Mar 2012, 16:02:16 BST
Spin says:
T: Yes. I do. But I am not a teacher. Meditation is something you yourself must try. If you find it does not work, then you are not sufficiently prepared, mentally or physically, to accept any descriptions or recommendations of it. Meditation is a deeply personal activity. Unlike religion, science or political ideologies it is not something that can be taught. It must be experienced. And that experience can only be gained by practice. It is not, by any means, as easy as some make out. It requires commitment, concentration, and a depth of thought that must be developed, not instantly acquired.

Posted on 31 Mar 2012, 21:58:51 BST
I have been a meditator for the last 20 years and I have experience both of being taught and teaching. I now find that I do not do either except when asked to do so. I am just interested in your experience as so few of the people who write here seem to have it - or if they do that is not evident from their statements.

Posted on 1 Apr 2012, 05:37:32 BST
Meditation=sittoes on cushion.....watchy the breathing.....perhaps go "aum mane padme aum"....= same old, same old!

CRT=dissolve the semantic and linguistic constructs that cause mental deletions, distortions and generalisations....= REAL change....

Posted on 1 Apr 2012, 10:11:21 BST
Karma Donlha says:
I was quite looking forward to a reasonable discussion. Reading some of the comments, I am saddened. It sounds to me like some kind of battle going on.
Dear SB, I'm sorry for what seems like your anger. I wish you the very best in your (whatever it is - ?quest for answers).
If you truly want answers I'd suggest finding a suitable teacher of what it is you want to know. (or at least some decent and well known books eg: Sogyal Rinpoche's books, Jon Kabat-Zinns books, Mindfulness for Dummies (a real title), Others by well known author Thich Nhat Hanh. Good luck.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2012, 15:00:05 BST
Dear Elena.....read all those....and more....not sure why you think I am angry...

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2012, 15:01:16 BST
Oh and Elena... I know what I need to know......

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2012, 15:07:39 BST
Sombrio says:
How do you know that you know what you need to know ?

You know ?

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2012, 16:35:09 BST
Last edited by the author on 1 Apr 2012, 19:02:32 BST
Spin says:
T: I have been a student of buddhism for many years now, and the one thing I find most difficult to perfect is meditation. I think it is because I find more pleasure and awareness in thinking about things, rather than in "mindfulness" ( a misnomer, as far I can see). Meditation relaxes me, clears my mind, but has not yet contributed to my spiritual, philosophical and ethical being. Such progess is made by my questioning, studying, and reflecting . I think only when the questions are answered can I truly meditate,(in the sense of engaging in "mindfulness"), since to be mindful, ones mind must be complete. Any doubts, questions or errors linger, consciously or subconciously, grossly or subtley, corrupt even the deepest meditation.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Apr 2012, 18:27:14 BST
Last edited by the author on 1 Apr 2012, 18:27:37 BST
Through personal experience.....the way of the Dragon.
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