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Initial post: 6 Dec 2012 16:02:38 GMT
wow!!! just been announced that max clifford has been arrested for sexual offences........whos next i wonder

Posted on 6 Dec 2012 16:09:39 GMT
easytiger says:
It's all in the haircuts innit?

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2012 16:10:08 GMT
donald trump next then lol

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 06:33:55 GMT
easytiger says:
Or Milliband

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 11:56:13 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 14:11:19 GMT
really?

so are you saying you'd be happy if he was charged?

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 14:18:01 GMT
Dan Fante says:
No, I'd be unhappy in the sense that it would mean a child or some children may have been abused.
Anyway, as the Viz once said, if Max Clifford is so good at PR, how come everyone thinks he's such a c***?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Dec 2012 14:54:16 GMT
excellent . you have just said what i was going to say if you'd have said yes.

ps the arrest is under the term sexual offences. that would cover ALL offences of a sexual nature, not just child abuse, so be careful what you insinuate. wouldnt want you to get sued like those people who tweeted about lord mcalpine. just saying;)

Posted on 7 Dec 2012 19:30:04 GMT
Only took 35 years for one of the women to complain. Better late than never.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 09:47:13 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Dan- this smacks of women jumping on a bandwagon. I would hesitate to defend Mr Clifford (I cannot stand him) but honestly- it has taken decades for someone to come forward. It is impossible for him to prove his innocence, or them to prove his guilt. Also how were the media at his property? This smacks of plod releasing details to the media (yet again). I doubt Clifford told them, so that leaves the police.

Posted on 8 Dec 2012 16:32:46 GMT
Hi C A SMall

research shows that the average age of disclosure of childhood sexual offences is 42. It is in no way unusual for people not to complain for many many years. Childhood sexual assault causes deep trauma that can take many years to come to terms with sufficiently for somone to feel able to complain to the authorites. Indeed many never do for all kinds of reasons, not least that which you implied, that they may be lieing.

In my opinion only a fool would lie about this consider the consequences of such a lie, the dificulty of presenting a plausable case in court and the consequences of making false alegations against such a public figure, you would have to be barmy.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 16:40:40 GMT
C. A. Small says:
Or looking forward to a cheque from one of the tabloids.

Posted on 8 Dec 2012 18:31:50 GMT
Spin says:
The possibility of innocence is extended only to secular members of society. The same courtesy is not extended to priests, eh? But then "hatred" has no recourse to reason...

Posted on 8 Dec 2012 20:21:48 GMT
In the past it was said that when a child makes an allegation of sexual assault, they should be believed. What was meant is that in principle it should be recognised that these things happen, but that doesn't make either party automaticaly in the right. People lie, children lie. A case has to rest on evidence like any other.

Posted on 8 Dec 2012 20:34:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Dec 2012 21:00:28 GMT
Spin says:
Many, many years ago, if a child accused an adult of sexual abuse, we believed the chi;ld. Why? Because we could not believe a child would know of such things without experience of them. Today, a child can watch porn on the net, see sex on TV and adverts, etc. So today, we wonder whether the child is reporting a fact or a fantasy. Freedom has a price.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 20:48:12 GMT
I see what you mean.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 21:04:09 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Dec 2012 21:31:59 GMT
Spin says:
CE; Thanks. But my point goes further: All this furore about media intrusion will result in those with power distancing themselves from the public. This will result in the "Freedom of information" act being applicable only to texts of a certain age. THe media, with its bull-headed desire for profit, is destroying actual freedom of information.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Dec 2012 15:51:27 GMT
Pipkin says:
Hello MC Fortune-wood,
Absolutely correct...

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Dec 2012 15:53:57 GMT
Pipkin says:
I agree Spin,
So what is to be done about porn on the net?

Posted on 10 Dec 2012 15:02:47 GMT
easytiger says:
He's just been nicked on the third category of 'other'. Want to bet it's aiding and abetting by witholding info but the press are having a field day as usual.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Dec 2012 18:23:49 GMT
Spin says:
Margaret: I do not know. I personally do not let my kids surf the net in the privacy of thier room. Our PCs and laptops are kept in the sitting room. This is not because I am a some kind of prude (as I know what teens are like, having been one myself so long ago) but because unlike in my day, when "porn" was pics of naked women in PLayboy, Club or Razzle, the "porn" on the net today is extremely hardcore, graphic, perverted, brutal and disturbing. I do not mind teens engaging thier sexual curiousity but I do not advocate them surfing the net for porn which will provide links to other sites with content that would disturb an adult, never mind a teen...

Posted on 10 Dec 2012 18:30:22 GMT
"content that would disturb an adult, never mind a teen..."

It wouldn't disturb a teen as much as an adult imo. I looked at some right weird stuff when I was about 10 years younger and wasn't affected by a jot of it - used to love rotten.com. But then they got closed =(

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 09:46:39 GMT
Spin says:
Kod: It is not just porn that poses a threat to the sexual health of those who surf the net. There are videos of actual deaths, quite horrific, available on the net, videos of torture, S&M etc. The net is a door to some quite distasteful subjects.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 09:53:18 GMT
easytiger says:
It's a strange world. A few years ago I went down the local library to use their PC as I don't have one. I wanted to check out the BNP website to see what they were up to. This website was barred on instructions from the local council I was told. So out of interest/anger I checked into a jihadi website where they were sawing peoples heads off. WTF?

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Dec 2012 10:05:44 GMT
Spin says:
easy: What do you mean "WTF?" You obviously chose to log onto that site...Did you report it? I am sure if the library knew the kids could access Saudi or Somalian executions they would block it..
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