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Initial post: 23 Jan 2013 04:29:42 GMT
Spin says:
And it is claimed that Islam is not a danger to freedom and justice?

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 09:11:27 GMT
Mind elaborating ?

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 09:38:10 GMT
If Spin is refering to what I think he is it's regarding a story doing the rounds in the press at the minute of a group of muslims that are patrolling certain areas of London and taking alcohol off people, telling women to cover up more and generally enforcing shi-ite law on everyone.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 10:48:24 GMT
Excellent idea! Some of these drunkards defacate in gutters, I've heard. So yes, bring on shi-ite law and make them clear it up.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 12:06:07 GMT
J. Forbes says:
Down the ages, all the "religions of the book" have done terrible things, and whilst it is true that we are suffering at the hands of a few Muslim fanatics now, we should remember that Muslims are people first, and most just want what we all want - to live in peace.

Threads like this carry a danger of increasing racial and religious tensions, and on the whole are probably a "bad thing".

If some people in East London are being a nuisance, let the police handle it. And if we have some people in our society who are bent on its destruction, then there is a case for deporting them after a proper and fair judicial process in this country, without having to go through the hoops with the EU.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 12:10:31 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2013 12:10:43 GMT
G. Heron says:
J. Forbes

". And if we have some people in our society who are bent on its destruction, then there is a case for deporting them after a proper and fair judicial process in this country, without having to go through the hoops with the EU. "

To where do you deport people who are born in the UK?

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 12:19:37 GMT
"To where do you deport people who are born in the UK"

Somewhere that has the rules in place that they want to live by ? I dunno, I guess that's why there are people paid small fortunes to think of these things so us mere mortals can bang our drums and spout our impossible ideas lol

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 12:38:19 GMT
J. Forbes says:
Well, we can't deport people born here, but we seem to have immense difficulty deporting people who weren't, and I think that is wrong.

It is the people who were not born here that I was referring to, and I should have made that clear.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 12:38:40 GMT
G. Heron says:
Checking online it seems there has already been arrests after one of the patrols filmed themselves hassling a gay chap telling him he had to get out of the area because it was a Muslim area.

If these patrols are going round telling women what they can wear and taking drink off people I would pay good money to see them 'patrol' Glasgow.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 12:47:51 GMT
"If these patrols are going round telling women what they can wear and taking drink off people I would pay good money to see them 'patrol' Glasgow."

I think there's a decent pitch for a ITV show in there. You could call it "Muslims patrol..." and do a different city each week, think you'd have to save Glasgow for the series finallie though, don't want to peak to soon.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 12:50:23 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Give them a suitcase of drugs and send them to Indonesia on holiday.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 12:55:57 GMT
J. Forbes says:
Some good suggestions here. Liverpool should probably be selected for the semi-final.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 13:03:27 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2013 13:03:55 GMT
Didn't they bring a law in a while back about drinking alcohol in a public place? It only has to be enforced by someone. Also there have always been laws against indecent exposure or disturbing the peace (ie. by not dressing adequately). People who defecate in gutters, well I can't see any excuse for that unless you are a dog. Maybe ASBOs all round.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:04:21 GMT
Dan Fante says:
Ha! Indeed. I'd send them down the Bigg Market on a Friday night too. Good luck with that, lads.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:06:49 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2013 13:11:10 GMT
The Truth says:
"Some of these drunkards defacate in gutters, I've heard."

I've seen. Par for the course in Newcastle, it's disgusting. But it's more the homeless and alcoholics who do it - not your regular Geordie. They have proper manners and just piss and puke in the street.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:08:10 GMT
Decent people just want to be able to live civilised lives.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:12:11 GMT
The Truth says:
... Without stepping in someone's excrement or being asked for 20 pence to catch the bus home.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 13:16:54 GMT
It's always been the case that you can consume alcohol in your own home, or in premises licensed for the consumption of alcohol, but until recently there was not a specific law against drinking in public areas. However even in the past, someone in a drunken state would have been moved along by the law or otherwise dealt with. Recently though the situation has spiralled out of control.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 13:18:13 GMT
Nottingham could be a pretty deadly episode from what I hear about the place.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:18:27 GMT
Last edited by the author on 23 Jan 2013 13:23:43 GMT
G. Heron says:
C.E. Statham

"Decent people just want to be able to live civilised lives. "

Agreed and that includes not having drunks puking in the streets and not having self righteous thugs threatening innocent citizens.

Posted on 23 Jan 2013 13:18:35 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:18:44 GMT
"Some good suggestions here. Liverpool should probably be selected for the semi-final."

I reckon Liverpool would be piped to the post for that spot by Dublin.

"Didn't they bring a law in a while back about drinking alcohol in a public place?"

Yes they did, but no-one said they were taking alcohol off people who were drinking in public, while I admit it's unlikely who says they hadn't just been down the off license and were on their way home with a bottle of wine?

"It only has to be enforced by someone."

And that someone is the police, not a vigilante mob.

"Also there have always been laws against indecent exposure or disturbing the peace (ie. by not dressing adequately)."

But these aren't people who are indecently exposing themselves, if media accounts are to be believed it's included young women who commited the heinous crime of wearing a skirt shorter than ankle length, also no-one as yet has been described as disturbing the peace so that's irrelevant to the topic.

"People who defecate in gutters, well I can't see any excuse for that unless you are a dog."

Yes it's disgusting, but there's no evidence to suggest that the people being accosted were defecating in a gutter.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:28:54 GMT
G. Heron says:
Sweet Zombie

"And that someone is the police, not a vigilante mob."

Absolutely, by the way the telegraph web site has film of a patrol hassling a gay man.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9818163/Muslim-Patrol-thugs-abuse-man-in-second-vigilante-video.html

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:40:58 GMT
Dan Fante says:
That's a bit of an unfair stereotype. People come from all parts of the UK to spend the weekend pissing and puking in the gutters of Newcastle.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jan 2013 13:42:34 GMT
G. Heron says:
Dan Fante

" People come from all parts of the UK to spend the weekend pissing and puking in the gutters of Newcastle. "

Are you saying it has become a Mecca for drunks?
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