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Oliver Stone's history of the USA...part one.


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In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:26:17 BST
Charlieost says:
Ooooh Henry James. Stone is a clown and a dangerous one eh? And we all know what happens to dangerous clowns in the USA don't we.

I'm on the side of the Joker. C

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:28:44 BST
Charlieost says:
Hi Pen. We don't get it in the republic and shouldn't be able to get it on player but I believe there is a way of bypassing that. Just need the time to check it out. Cheers. C

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:33:34 BST
Henry James says:
Jason believes that "all the people who deny Stone today are irrelevant; they are also without doubt being paid to say what is favourable to the empire. Aren't they mostly university employees?"

Twilight Zone time. Is there a good hospital with an effective Paranoid ward in your vicinity?

Posted on 24 Apr 2013, 22:36:39 BST
Henry James says:
Oh, yes, and the End of the World is coming.
Produced and Directed by Stone.

Oops, it was supposed to premiere a couple of months ago, and it flopped.

Wait til next time.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:37:51 BST
Pendragon says:
Hi Jason

"It is understood by Congress that the actual killers were Cubans and CIA."

I thought the Mob was a favoured possibility?

With LHO acting on his own initiative a fading fourth.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:42:00 BST
Pendragon says:
Hi Charlie - presumably one needs Sky TV to catch Sky Atlantic programmes? Or are you saying Sky does not broadcast its Sky Atlantic channel to the Emerald Isle?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Apr 2013, 22:56:42 BST
J A R P says:
I suppose the end of the world is coming. I think that is the point I am trying to make. Most of us end up in a hospital ward. At that time the true evaluations can be made of what we were. The owl of Minerva flies only when darkness falls.

When the USA is no more, historians will perhaps take more of an interest in the patriotic Stone than in the bureaucrats who hold positions of 'professional historian' at the 'universities'.

Stone's most recent film was not about armageddon, but drug manufacture.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 00:25:24 BST
Henry James says:
Jason
I know when the End of the World is going to happen,
and for the right amount of cash I will reveal it to you.
Send me $40million in small unmarked bills.
General Delivery, Utopia USA.
(Do you think it will end in Fire, or in ice?)

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 00:54:25 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 09:26:12 BST
Shrek says:
Jason,

All lies and fantasies. You write baloney. <<Yes it was a conspiracy>> says you. It's definitely NOT the case that many people wanted JFK dead. NO <<riddle>>. NO <<enigma wrapped around a mystery>>, just the work of a delusional loner with the shooting skill, equipment and opportunity to do it.

<<It's understood by Congress that the actual killers were Cubans and CIA>> NO it's not.

JFK was killed by LHO acting alone . He fired three shots from a high velocity sniper's rifle in 8.3 seconds, the first missed, the second hit JFK in the back went through him and struck Goveror Connelly in the back then in the wrist ending up in his thigh, the third hit JFK in the top portion of the back of his skull blowing part of his brains away. All of this has been demonstrated by rigorous scientific analysis, including 3D computer animation. Oswald was a misfit wannabe loner seething with ambition who had tried to live in the USSR and work for the Soviets but left disillusioned, the KGB said he was unbalanced and of no use. He tried to get the Cuban's interested and they too didn't want to know. Oswald was determined to make his mark, had tried to kill General Walker earlier in the year. A friend got him a job at the book depository and he found out that by chance JFK's motorcade was to pass right by. He took his opportunity to make himself a somebody.

<<So Stone's film is about as accurate on the facts as these things can get>> utter BS. Stone's JFK is a pack of lies.

Take a look at, 'The Kennedy Assassination; Beyond Conspiracy', it's on Youtube.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 01:00:22 BST
Shrek says:
No, the <<Mob>> have been ruled out, along with the USSR, Castro, the CIA, the 'military-industrial complex'. It was just LHO, all on his tod.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 01:04:09 BST
Henry James says:
Gordon!!!
How Dare You
inject a little sanity into this discussion!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 01:09:54 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 08:08:53 BST
Shrek says:
It's a work of fiction masquerading as fact.

I didn't disagree with the archive pictures and film. You could put any voice over to them. Stone's commentary was just his usual take on events. He offered NO evidence to support his claims, he just stated, 'this is a fact, this is true, it is generally accepted', all BS. I'm still waiting for Stone to offer some evidence to support his spin, maybe next week...

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 04:40:22 BST
Beloved...grasp man, hold tight, think..."effect on war"...like D Day, the Battle of Britain...you are the one saying Mr Stone is "incorrect". I am trying to find your position. As usual Beloved wriggleoes. You are being asked to do what you say Mr Stone is doing, clear now, crystal clear?

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 08:04:00 BST
Shrek says:
I didn't make the claim that the USSR won WWII, Stone did. Stone's Evidence for his claim? I don't have enough knowledge of WWII to be able to say which country contributed most, do you Funtoy? You seem to think it was the USSR. OK tell you what, seduce me, serenade me, make me purr like a Persian. Butter me up. Go on butter me...butter... butter me with your knowledge of who won WWII

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 08:05:52 BST
Shrek says:
I'm not saying Stone is <<"incorrect">>, just asking for evidence to support his claim. Go on, butter me.

Posted on 25 Apr 2013, 09:39:18 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 09:39:48 BST
Dan Fante says:
There's a very good website here which goes to meticulous lengths to debunk a lot of the conspiracy theories surrounding JFK's assassination:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 11:07:53 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 11:11:27 BST
Well...erm...erh....uh...erm...uh...whoopsies....

Dear Beloved...a casual (TWEEDS) glance at the history of WW2 seems to show that the USSR stopped Hitler...erm...erh...um...is that disputed?...he was on his way east when ...ooops what a palava!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 12:22:32 BST
Shrek says:
Oh dear you farted and followed through...again! More <<whoopsies>>, you poor love. Reads like you need taking in hand...........

Are you taking your remedies?

Stay hydrated, lots of rest, nervous tension...relaaax.

Drink soothing chamomile tea, and 1/2 teaspoon of fenugreek seeds in a cup of RODI water...Stalin was a fan.

Also orange peel tea. Eat blueberries and potatoes, Cut down on the high fibre ...you are not a frigging donkey.

That sounds reasonable, the USSR made an important contribution to the allied war effort, I raise my glass of tepid chamomile tea to you. Now go and lie down.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 12:40:30 BST
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In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 12:41:45 BST
Uncle Joe used RODI water....well whooopyyy the doo doooss!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 12:45:07 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 12:51:18 BST
Shrek says:
Behave, you're upsetting the serious folk on here.

Does Hitler get a mention for helping win the War for the Allies?

Posted on 25 Apr 2013, 12:50:32 BST
Last edited by the author on 25 Apr 2013, 13:16:42 BST
Shrek says:
The Soviets had the invincible T34, the greatest tank ever seen at the time and the way they produced them was impressive.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 12:53:29 BST
Shrek says:
Yep it's fact, Ollie said so. It helped the USSR win WWII.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 13:05:10 BST
Now yer lerning!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Apr 2013, 13:09:52 BST
Shrek says:
Yes, dream up any load of BS you fancy and say, 'top historians have now proved it is true'
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