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Reform or Abolish the BBC


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In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 23:45:36 GMT
fish says:
Goodnight young sir and thank you very much for your input ... :)

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 23:31:45 GMT
Spin says:
Fish: Of Course.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 23:26:01 GMT
fish says:
So your point being that ?
Want the BBC to remain the way it is/ not remain the way it is...
Your'e happy with a stealth tax / not happy ?
You don't mind that the government takes your money and uses it for other investments ?
What do you stand for other than trying to make your point ?...
No need to answer because I'm done with all this , I think i made my point with all this response, so good settle back in your armchair and keep moaning .That will help everyone . Be seeing you :)

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 23:23:59 GMT
Spin says:
Fish (marillion expectations ignored, of course) Is not the UK no more than slavery?) feel free to embrace that which your superiors tell you..

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 23:17:51 GMT
Last edited by the author on 17 Jan 2013, 23:18:42 GMT
fish says:
It does actually feel like we have possibly finished this debate...I for one am now out because it could end up with all of us going round the houses so to speak !.
Whatever detail / opnion people are bringing to this debate it is quite obvious that many of us are not happy with this policy so , I would suggest we lobby local MP's , Government departments ,The BBC itself and do what you can to try and stop this ...If people feel strongly enough it can be done. Good luck...:)

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 23:07:15 GMT
fish says:
Totally agree with you on this .An excellent idea.

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 21:34:08 GMT
Spin says:
"I am a strictly dancing celeb in conflict with X factor celebrities wanting to get out....." A good use of BBC money, I must admit...

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 21:13:27 GMT
Fazool says:
I thought so

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 21:04:50 GMT
Spin says:
Fazool; I do not know how one accesses BBC overseas. All I see is the adverts for these foreign service as I chomp pizza and drown in the beauty of amatuer dancers and wannabe singers...

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 21:04:34 GMT
Last edited by the author on 17 Jan 2013, 21:10:25 GMT
Fazool says:
You said:

I can remember life before television and there was a marked difference in society. People went out more; they socialised more, played cards and belonged to debating societies. Since 1955 we have spent 60 years hypnotised to a form of brain washing. TV had probably done more social damage that drugs'

I have to say that I can't remember 1955 but I would agree in principle that too much TV is not a good thing. Does that include Radio too though?

Actually this reminds me about a piece of a poem by Seamus Heaney called The Last Mummer:

'Carries a stone in his pocket,
an ash-plant under his arm.

Moves out of the fog
On the lawn, pads up the terrace.

The luminous screen in the corner
Has them charmed in a ring'

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 21:01:44 GMT
Fazool says:
Spin explain how BBC online services can be accessed overseas? I'd like to know for next time I go abroad.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 21:00:12 GMT
Fazool says:
Doesn't it? Whose money is it then? Banks need our money somewhere along the line....

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 20:52:01 GMT
Cicero says:
Perhaps so but the money for the GS bonuses (bonae?) does not come out of my pocket. The £150-odd for the licence does and therein lies the difference.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 20:46:22 GMT
Fazool says:
The other problem with 'blogs' (as you call them) is that there are a lot of people who say things without any evidence or even an attempt at research. Not even a wiki search. TV Licence spend info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence#United_Kingdom

When you talk about government lies do you mean governments in countries that have a TV licence? I mean England isn't the only one: See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence.

Yes, by all means send a message that you are disgruntle about the BBC and the lying government. While you are at it why not also send a message to the owners of this very site and maybe even make it your very last message saying that you are not going to frequent, buy off, encourage or endorse tax dodgers: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/dec/03/amazon-google-starbucks-tax-avoidance

And when you talk about the money that goes to the BBC lets remember the money that will be spent on bonuses at Goldman Sachs just now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/16/goldman-sachs-pay-bonuses-rise

Makes the few billion that goes towards the BBC seem like peanuts!

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 19:36:40 GMT
Cicero says:
I think money invested in programme making would be wasted. I think we lost the skill of entertaining many years ago and it is probably beyond reach. The one thing the BBC used to do well was investigative journalism but that ceased some time ago - Panorama these days is just a joke - when the BBC adopted the policy of trying to be all things to all men.

I can remember life before television and there was a marked difference in society. People went out more; they socialised more, played cards and belonged to debating societies. Since 1955 we have spent 60 years hypnotised to a form of brain washing. TV had probably done more social damage that drugs.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 19:27:11 GMT
Spin says:
Xpress: I think the money spent on BBC3 and 4 and a number of digital/internet services could be better spent by investment in the commissioning of actual programs rather than the maintenance of airtime which produces only repeats and obsure documentaries...You can watch the BBC free of charge in other nations via iplayer and net services...We seem to be financing foreign viewers...

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 19:15:56 GMT
Cicero says:
For once I agree with this poster. The arguments put up by the pro-BBC lobby are less than convincing: they seem to want to keep the BBC provided the rest of us pay for it. I would rather do away with the BBC - which we wouldn't miss in a month's time - or the licence fee and put the money to something worthwhile such as the NHS.

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 18:19:09 GMT
Spin says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 18:16:19 GMT
fish says:
Well lets just say 'The herd would do'...
Point has been actually addressed finally , does seem to be quite a few people who do dislike this forced 'Tax' which we do call 'TV licensing'...
Complete crap about the quality of programmes. For every 'Blue Planet' there will be much 'Dancing on ice ', Soaps and daft reality programmes.
Some of the stuff shown (EG BBC 4 recent Doc on drugs in the USA )was actually made by an independant company and even these 'Nature programmes are not actually financed by the BBC ( check ) credits at the end of any Blue just BBC...You see something like " A Co Production with German, or Italian TV etc etc. BBC 4 consists of well made programmes that are by and large made outside the UK...So The Beeb doesn't actually make that much does it , they buy it in ...well we can do that ourselves that's the whole point NOT HAVING THE CHOICE...We should choose what we watch and how much we decide to pay and for how long .

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 16:11:40 GMT
Squeeth says:
It is run as a business! That's the problem, it's full of adverts and it collects a poll tax too.

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 15:34:16 GMT
Last edited by the author on 17 Jan 2013, 16:14:14 GMT
Spin says:
If I am given the choice as to whether to subscribe to BBC services I no doubt will choose to pay the "TV license" (a misnomer) but it is the fact that I have no choice but am threatened with fines or court that makes me want to engage in that famous scene from "The Wall" where Pinky smashes his TV...The BBC, while spouting its defense of "human rights" and "freedom of press" engages in an activity which is contrary to human rights (Tv licensing) and press freedoms (its reliance on the public finance)...

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 15:10:14 GMT
Let the BBC run like a business, if it is good enough as an entertainment service it should have no problem. Being charged is not fair on people who do not use the BBC. A few adverts here and there make it all reasonable and fair.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 14:35:41 GMT
Squeeth says:
I'm not liable to the tax because I don't have a telly. I'm more Lemmy than Lemming.;O)

Posted on 17 Jan 2013, 12:56:42 GMT
MarmiteMan says:
Actually, lemmings do not jump off cliffs - not even blindly - and never have, despite popular misconception(s) ...

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jan 2013, 12:39:53 GMT
fish says:
Nothing to do with 'UK' being fascist or not .
Just facing up to being not always told the truth.
I'm not sure about you but when we were growing up in the 60's it did seem like we could change things by actually doing something about what we didn't agree with.
Now all I see is people like us debating trivial stuff such as this on blog sites.
This is safe for the government, we keep all this controlled and in one place...Do you actually agree with everything that is thrown at us daily, do you honestly accept that everything about the UK is fine ?
These taxes we readily accept without question are a stealth tax...
All I can say is fine forget it, no point in any of this anymore and 'Just that lemmings jump off cliffs , because they do blindly. Good luck you'll need it .
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