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Why is cannabis illegal?


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In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 17:36:55 BST
Last edited by the author on 6 May 2012, 17:39:42 BST
Joe. C says:
Spin,
I would take a stoned worker over a drunk worker any day, i have operated high power lasers and an electron microscope stoned on rare occasion, both require your full attention and both were handled without incident. Although it's not something i would recommend to an infrequent smoker. But that's besides the point, you will always get those that will abuse a drug illegal or not.
If it's popularity does increase then it stands to reason the popularity of alcohol would decrease (the two more often than not, are not mixed) , i can't see how that's a bad thing...
As for experiencing life in all it's glory, a couple of months ago i took a trip to Scotland, hiked to the top of ben nevis, then smoked a spliff on the way back down.... it was fantastic, although i do enjoy chilling out in front of the tv it's not all us stoners do.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 17:37:47 BST
The simple factor is, you can't have one legal and one not. I suppose the question 'Why is cannabis illegal?' should be replaced with 'Why is alcohol legal?'

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 17:41:51 BST
Last edited by the author on 6 May 2012, 17:45:24 BST
8,790 killed by alcohol in the year 2010 (BBC website)
0 killed by cannabis. DO THE MATH!!!!!

---EDIT---
Sorry, should have said, thats the UK figure and only includes those who were doing the drinking lol (not the victims of drunk driving or violent attacks resulting in fatality)

Posted on 6 May 2012, 17:43:59 BST
Joe. C says:
Popcorn that will not be worldwide alcohol related deaths either, a much larger figure. Enough said.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 17:46:17 BST
Spin says:
Popcorn: So you measure "harm" in terms of mortality rates? Further, I take it you smoke weed, yes? Are you saying the inhalation of smoke, is "harmless"? I'm sure your lungs, heart and respitarory system disagree.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 17:51:18 BST
NO MAN FOR GOD SAKE!!! Do you read these posts? I have NEVER said its good for you, it is bad for you (particularly when smoked with tobacco as you get all of the badness from the tobacco aswell) BUT it is PROVEN to be LESS harmful than OTHER LEGAL mind altering substances without any explanationas to why that is. And 8,790 is a big difference from 0, would you not agree?

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 18:15:07 BST
Spin says:
Popcorn: Yes, I do read the posts, (Man), but you cannot say something is "less" harmful than something else. A thing is harmful or it is not. Simple as that. If you judge "harm" by degrees of damage, you must live a very complicated life....

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 18:21:09 BST
Spin, your logic:
-Everything is either harmful or not

So, jumping off a 50 foot cliff is harmful so is having too much salt on your chips.
Jumping of a 50 foot cliff IS MORE harmful than having too much salt - Not that complicated

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 18:33:07 BST
Spin says:
Popcorn: Jumping off a cliff is not harmful. Hitting the ground at a great velocity and force is fatal. And, likewise, anything hitting you at great velocity and force is fatal, even if you are standing still. "Harm" refers not to fatality but to detrimental effects which may lead to fatality.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 18:59:37 BST
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In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 19:52:37 BST
Spin,
F - Friendship
U - Unite
C - Care
K - Kindness

O - Openess
F - Freedom
F - Forgiveness

Theres a subliminal message there for you

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 19:57:20 BST
Spin says:
Popcorn: your intelligence is only surpassed by your wit...

In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012, 19:58:58 BST
Last edited by the author on 6 May 2012, 20:42:32 BST
canny good how I've managed that.

EDIT---
Its still there!

Posted on 6 May 2012, 20:03:48 BST
Spin says:
To hell with all that. Try smoking stale banana skins. Cheaper and just as effective. Our local councillers love it....=)

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 01:22:38 BST
Charlieost says:
Well that's an interesting reply Spin especially as you do not seem to have taken into account that pain is used as a way weaken bodies and break minds, not strengthen them.

Furthermore, I had no idea that glue sniffing had been legislated against and this is beyond the subject of this thread. I believe that the social cost of having cannabis as an illegal drug does more harm than it being legal. We recenly had head Shops sprouting up over here selling all sorts of weird stuff to get high on. At least with dope the effects are known and can be dealt with.

Posted on 7 May 2012, 01:31:48 BST
Charlieost says:
I worked a holiday camp in the UK one summer. I was heading home mid week and returning with a couple of ounces that I sold to a guy I was working with to deal because I did not want the hassle and he wanted to be "the man".

At the end of the season the catering manager called me in and said that he knew what had been going on and thanked me for the most peaceful season with the staff he had ever known. no fights, no stabbing (unlike the year before) and the police had not been called in to the camp over staff behaviour once.

I got double the end of season bonus. Everyones a winner baby that's no lie.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 10:24:24 BST
TomC says:
"8,790 killed by alcohol in the year 2010 (BBC website)
0 killed by cannabis. DO THE MATH!!!!!"

The parents of Lillian Grove would disagree with you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140679/Drug-drivers-face-tougher-sentences-14-year-old-girls-killer-high-Cannabis-let-EIGHT-weeks.html

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 10:33:23 BST
Charlieost says:
Good point Tom C. Drug testing kits have recently been made available to the gards here. I have known people who spliff up when they get up and one overnight delivery guy who smoked while driving. If the gards hit the local hippie school run I am sure they would collar a few but policing is mostly by consent in rural areas in Ireland so I can't see it happening.

Most violent crimes and traffic accidents here involving drugs do tend to be cocaine related, often combined with alcohol rather than cannabis.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 10:59:52 BST
"The parents of Lillian Grove would disagree with you." - Cannabis did not kill their daughter, a driver under the influence did.
The figure I quoted were those who died as a DIRECT result of intoxicating themselves (Alcohol poisoning) if you include drink driver deaths and fatalities caused by drunken behaviour you can double that number.

Posted on 7 May 2012, 11:06:48 BST
Like so many others before have, you pick ONE example of where cannabis has caused pain and STICK to that example and demonise weed through it. I bet there were other factors involved in this tragedy - I can't prove it though. Weed stays in the system 6 months, if I killed someone today (by accident, ie. they were not looking where they were going) I would be accused of driving under the influence even though I wasn't as the cannabis is in my bloodstream. People die through alcohol related injuries EVERYDAY. I work closely with my other halfs mother, who is a recovering alcoholic. She started rehab with a class of 22 other individual alcoholics. 7 of them now remain recovering alcoholics (WELL DONE TO YOU ALL!!!) the others re-lapsed, 4 have died since re-lapsing. Alcohol ruins lives on a daily basis, when will you just accept the fact it is TWICE the killer weed will ever be, this is the ONLY point I am trying to make.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 12:17:07 BST
Joe. C says:
Tom C,
That is not a figure for world wide alcohol related deaths, i suspect it is direct deaths from alcohol and most likely in the uk alone, the world wide figure dwarfs that one with an estimated 2.5 million deaths a year.
http://stopalcoholdeaths.com/2011/02/reports-shows-25-million-people-die-alcoholrelated-deaths/
I agree her parents would most defiantly disagree, but the legal status of the drug doesn't really come down to one moronic driver.

Posted on 7 May 2012, 15:13:10 BST
Charlieost says:
Is it valid to point out that those who die from abuse of alcohol are excercising their right to kill themselves sooner rather than later and a lot of alcoholics that I have met and have died have left the world a better place for their leaving it? It's just a pity that they screw up so many other people before they go.

That may seem harsh but it is my experience.

And that hash smokers are boring and self obsessed.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 15:32:52 BST
Last edited by the author on 7 May 2012, 15:33:47 BST
Those opinions you hold charlie, they are called stereotypes lol.

I'm a smoker - I'm boring in that I like xbox and I'm a father, but I'm certianly not self-obsessed, as a father thats an impossibility mate.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 15:37:14 BST
Dunno Opium did make Britain rich and kept the Chinese form achieving anything.

Myabe we should bring it back LOL.

OK we have spins approval and since he is lord of all Brittons, we can now legally smoke weed.

Thanks your Madge

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2012, 15:38:17 BST
He had not thought that far clearly, he just thinks weed is wrong.....and well thats it, just dont argue with him, he'll get angry LOL
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