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JFK - military coup in America?


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Posted on 8 May 2013, 12:24:03 BST
Last edited by the author on 8 May 2013, 12:29:45 BST
Dan Fante says:
With the 50th anniversary later this year it would be good to see a programme on TV focussing on what probably happened and dispelling some of the myths that have grown over the years. Badge man, Umbrella Man, the 3 tramps, the four shots being proven by the acoustic evidence, the shooter on the grassy knoll being proven by the Zapruder film, the route being changed at the last minute, JFK pulling the USA out of Vietnam, etc. etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 May 2013, 00:05:59 BST
Spin says:
ME; Isn't "Cluedo" the means by which the US conducts its "foreign policy"?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 May 2013, 18:28:24 BST
Pipkin says:
Sorry, I think I'm losing the plot. It was Proffesor Plum in the drawing room :)
http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=3&page=

As I said, some of it 'is' very interesting.
Mx

In reply to an earlier post on 4 May 2013, 13:00:52 BST
Pendragon says:
Hi Margaret

Which link of mine were you reading?

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Apr 2013, 18:26:07 BST
Pipkin says:
Hi Pen,
I have just finished reading the link you gave, and it is very interesting......
Mx

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Apr 2013, 16:42:05 BST
Pipkin says:
Pen.... you replied to a post from three years ago?
I've missed you... where have you been?
Mx

Posted on 25 Apr 2013, 19:47:56 BST
Pendragon says:
And some stuff here on JFK assassination conspiracies!

Posted on 19 Jan 2010, 22:52:03 GMT
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Posted on 18 Jan 2010, 02:37:27 GMT
Last edited by the author on 18 Jan 2010, 05:50:04 GMT
Tom Plum says:
"Oh and by the way, the good doctor mentioned that JFK's car which was parked outside the accident and emergency room at the hospital for some hours had a bullet hole in the front windscreen........... "

Now, this last part, if substantiated, must be your best evidence.

The rest looks to be highly conjecture.

Now, the JFK Lancer forum of which I have been a part of for a few years must be the prime place to discuss assassination theory. You know there was some guy from Ireland who really wanted to know the details and postulate all kinds of thoughts on it, I say thoughts because there are a lot of people who run with conspiracy theories, he doesn't.

I use to be pro-conspiracy, now I'm neutral and I don't think I could ever be anti-conspiracy, only neutral or pro.

Hollywood's JFK put a slant on it but then, I'd watch the Discovery channel's specials on it, bullet trajectory and then I threw my hands up and figured, I don't know.

But I grant you, conspiracy is a lot more fun. Is this website, "Spartacus", educational website, they seem real anti-conspiracy and the site comes from the UK http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKindex.htm . I've always wondered about them. They have a lot of other good non-controversial subjects there as well.

What I find interesting, is how prior to JFK being assassinated, there was some sort of right winger, ex-General Walker http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwalker.htm who was shot at and it was tied to Oswald.

I apologize for the length of this post and I've read a lot of the Warren commission report too and Walker's testimony, taken in his home rather than going before the commission.

Anyway, Spartacus has this quote:

"On 10th April, 1963, Walker was victim of an assassination attempt while he sat at a desk in his Dallas home. It was later claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald had taken the shot at Walker. Marina Oswald reported that she "asked him what happened, and he said that he just tried to shoot General Walker. I asked him who General Walker was. I mean how dare you to go and claim somebody's life, and he said "Well, what would you say if somebody got rid of Hitler at the right time? So if you don't know about General Walker, how can you speak up on his behalf?." Because he told me... he was something equal to what he called him a fascist.""

(followed up with report by witness that two men were seen leaving the scene)

That Spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk as I said, is real anti-conspiratorial it seems but they have real good articles on the England players like Mortensen and Matthews. Imagine that!

Anyway, it really is a deep subject matter and everyone has to admit some will come up with real zany theories but I am open to plausible explanations. Those positing outrageous theories do no favours as a whole to a rational discourse.

I'm not really into the discussion as much as prior, good sources "pro-conspiracy" I believe would be "someone would have talked" (author asserts that indeed, some did) and "best evidence"; from what i can tell there must be 100+ books on the incident, conspiracy type books. It's fascinating.

I'm not one of those people who wish to quash others speaking pro-conspiracy or lumping them together with UFO and Big foot/Loch Ness monster believers.

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"The Warren Commission was stuffed full of the plotters loyal friends, one being Gerald Ford who also became President later on.
One Very important person who controlled the whole operation from outside Texas was rewarded twice into high positions, but that is all I am going to say about him. I am NOT going to name that gentleman."

Well, now, I'm not positive of who this is, since he has hailed from Texas for much of his time, but another person often tied into the assassination is the Senior George Bush, Reagan's Vice President.

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Anyway, I read the Sir Stanley Matthews book as well looking at Plett's other reviews...see that is close to the only reason I'm on https://amazon.co.uk, is because a lot of football books are not available here in the states.

JFK Lancer forums: Wackjobs and reasonable people go there but I do believe one has to be civil there. Good information there but I've bookmarked a lot of stuff because the forums are not that easy to navigate to me.

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=3&page=

Cheers.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jan 2010, 00:04:54 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2010, 23:59:30 GMT
S Wood says:
The fact that is not in circulation is - I suspect - neither here nor there, Id hazard a guess that no notes from 1963 are in circulation.

Posted on 16 Jan 2010, 23:42:26 GMT
SLow says:
Kennedy issued silver backed dollars months before he was killed. This required legislation being passed that ammended the 1913 federal reserve act that made every US dollar issued by the fed actually being borrowed from the central bank on interest. The notes are distinguished by displaying a red instead of green seal and the words 'united states note' instead of 'federal reserve note'. Effectively this was the start of notes being issued by the US and the golden goose of interest being paid on money owned by the central bank would soon be over. Kennedy was assassinated shortly after and the majority of the notes he issued are now out of circulation. The legislation he introduced has never been repealed so any US president since could introduce US money that was backed by goverment silver and not loaned from the central bank at interest but strangely none ever has.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2010, 20:40:50 GMT
S Wood says:
Because I think the time spent trying to figure out whether it was the Mafia, the Right, the Russians, The Cubans or who-ever might be more fruitfully spent thinking about problems that are of more pressing concern. Personally I also dont think that his murder changed much, one president gets popped, another pops up. One argument I certainly dont find particularly compelling is that Kennedy was shot because he was going to pull out of Vietnam - thats one I have looked into and going by the internal record of his administration it's a myth. Never heard the one about the silver backed dollars though.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2010, 19:35:57 GMT
Sam Iam says:
I'm curious. If you accept that a group conspired to overthrow the US Government, why are you "immensely sceptical" of the possibility that a group conspired to kill the US president. Recommend you read Deep Politics by Peter Dale Scott.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2010, 01:27:59 GMT
S Wood says:
I'm immensely sceptical of all this JFK conspiracy stuff. Whats the Military coup got to do with Prof Platts post? One example of a half cocked coup in the U.S. that never came off is when a group of right-wingers tried to overthrow the U.S. Goverment with the help of decorated U.S. General Smedley Butler (see his own account War is a Racket

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jan 2010, 23:48:08 GMT
SLow says:
S. Waddell
not exactly correct. He did issue silver based currency which is distinguished by a red seal and can be exchanged for silver. Search on ebay. He passed an act that allowed him to do this and is still live but no other president has been foolish enough to issue more currency that isn't loaned by the central banks.

Posted on 15 Jan 2010, 23:28:11 GMT
catspoo says:
he was shot because he wanted to issue dollars which were not made by the federal reserve, he wanted to do so because the bankers had been bleeding the american people dry. he was shot before it happened and the idea was revoked.
the last president to do this was Abraham lincoln, who was also shot and had the greenback revoked.

Initial post: 15 Jan 2010, 22:38:05 GMT
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