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In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2013 11:14:30 BDT
Last edited by the author on 19 Apr 2013 11:19:18 BDT
You seem to forget that there are many thousands of NK refugees living outside NK, including people who escaped from gulags. I have not said categorically that the crime rate is high in NK, but there is no reason to believe it is low, and there is ample anecdotal evidence (mainly from refugees) of the kinds of crime I mentioned.

Also, you are a conspiracy theorist. First of all, there is no reason to think that the US wants to get involved in a war in North Korea. It is far too risky. Since the disaster Iraq, they have been very reluctant to get involved in any military interventions except in a very limited way. The North Korean situation is exceptionally dangerous, because they don't know what China would do. If China were to take North Korea's side out of historical loyalty, the US could find itself in the middle of WWIII. That would of course be disastrous for everyone, including the US. Second, all the sabre rattling is coming from North Korea, and none at all from the US, or even from South Korea. It would be ridiculous to say that Kim Jong-un is acting on the order of the USA. Therefore, the USA is obviously not responsible for the sabre-rattling.

What we are seeing in North Korea at the moment is nothing new at all. North Korea has been behaving like this, intermittently, for decades. Every now and then, they make threats of war, or start a small skirmish. The purpose is partly internal propaganda, designed to keep the people feeling besieged and grateful for the protection of the regime, partly as tactic to blackmail the US and other aid donors to give it more money, and partly so that the leader can convince the military generals that he's tough enough to deserve their loyalty.

The theory that the US needs to start a war there in order to sell weapons there is silly, because the region already buys plenty of weapons from the US. If you look at the data on South Korea's military arsenal, it already has enough ships, tanks, planes and missiles to bury quickly North Korea in a heap of rubble, and the majority of that equipment is from the USA.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2013 13:55:47 BDT
Pipkin says:
Hello PPP,
I am interested to know where you get YOUR information from if there are no statistics?
Word of mouth from the people who saw the parents kill and eat their own children? Or perhaps from gulag inmates who witnessed the murder and rape, but somehow managed to escape the prison?
I think it is all Bsht propaganda myself, and we are being led by the nose into supporting 'another' illegal war. imho.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 19:16:05 BDT
Last edited by the author on 17 Apr 2013 21:05:01 BDT
Yep but that's Simon. He makes no end of outlandish claims, without any supporting evidence. When challenged he goes: waaaaaaaaaaaayhhhhooooooooooo.....DONE A WHOOOOOPSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!! The black and white cow's milk's gone sour in S Korea.

Posted on 17 Apr 2013 19:03:30 BDT
It's silly to say that NK has low crime. How is this low rate of crime measured? The guy in the documentary who lost an arm and a leg, literally, when he fell under a train while stealing coal to barter for food -- did his case show up in the annual crime statistics? How many cases of parents killing eating their own children during famine showed up in the crime statistics? How many cases of gulag inmates being murdered, maimed or raped by guards showed up in the crime statistics? How many cases of people being summarily executed without trial for carelessly saying something that could be construed as an implied criticism of the regime showed up in the crime statistics?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 18:16:34 BDT
Ooooh I've gone weak at the knees.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 18:15:15 BDT
What are you blethering about?

Everyone in NK is stressed out. The elite because they know that the only future for them is to keep the lid on things by pressing for an even more Stalinist state. If they let slip they're toast. Reform is out of the question because once the lid lifted even slightly the population would see the truth of their situation and realised they had the power to over throw the regime. The poor are stressed because they see their under nourished children stunted and dying. They know that to show dissidence would mean immediate transportation to and indefinite incarceration in a work camp from which they would not re-emerge most likely. All dissidents know that if they speak out or run away their families will be killed.

If that's not a formula for stress what is?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 15:13:23 BDT
Think....think...examine stress....think...think...what causes the fight-flight system to activate?...mmhhh?....come on....check in with your inner self...

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 14:54:04 BDT
How do you know there's less stress? You've convinced yourself.
<<I should not have to explain this>> stamps Funty

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 13:56:45 BDT
You are wise, fair and very handsome.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 13:37:21 BDT
Oh no it's more complicated than that simple soul.

My beliefs are drawn from many things: I've read about NYkerand and listened to people who have lived there, others who have been there.

Did you notice I said that the Beeb show filmed people enjoying themselves rollerblading, yet they never mentioned it. And I pointed out that you wouldn't expect the fields to be bursting with crops in a NKers winter

As for binge drinking, crime, chavs. If they tried it on in NKerland they'd be dog meat next day. So it's pretty easy for a totalitarian regime to eliminate hooligan elements. In a country that believes in the rule of law and individual rights you can't just round up low lifes and ship them up north for reeducation through physical labour.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 12:07:57 BDT
How do I know...its obvious to anyone with a working brain cell...remove the capitalist drive for growth and profit...less stress...I should not have to explain this.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 12:06:50 BDT
I see...yes...Beloved believes his own experience in regards to the UK but BBC propaganda when it is NK...all becomes clear...

Posted on 17 Apr 2013 12:03:58 BDT
TheFoe says:
How do you kow there is less stress Simon? Are you seriously trying to tell us that living under Pyogyang's dictatorship is a recipe for a stress free lifestyle, I think not. Crime, binge drinking and Chavs, are a relatively small price to pay for freedom of speech and the ability to laugh without fear of being arrested for trying to bring the government down by sharing an innocent joke.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 11:57:30 BDT
You missed off more starvation, stunted growth, daily brown outs, empty hospitals, less heating, barren fields and military first.

There's little or no evidence of crime, binge drinking, chavs, or etc etc round my way. What's it like by you at the shop and on the trailer park?

<<wake up man>> The Funty's got all excited, panties in a twist.+++++++++++

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 10:33:06 BDT
Last edited by the author on 17 Apr 2013 10:33:27 BDT
Yes...and less stress...less crime...less binge chavs etc etc...wake up man!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 10:27:11 BDT
Last edited by the author on 17 Apr 2013 14:58:55 BDT
Calm down.

In NKerland there's no IQ's. A dog cart, bicycle, shanks pony perhaps for the private transport. Oh and the rollerblades, we saw plenty of people having fun on them, so NKerlad is not all power cuts, empty hospitals, barren fields (but anyone with half an eye on it could see it was winter*) and factories with no production. But it didn't look far off.

The tour party were being shown and given the best they had on offer (outside of Lil Kim's and the generals' places) and it still looked a dump.

* I read up on NKer agriculture. It's complete crap. They expropriated the peasants' land , ripped out the trees, made big fields, brought in Soviet tractors, fertiliser, pesticides and completely frigged things up. Now they have eroded infertile land, with no tractors, fertilizer, pesticides and most of all no peasants with the incentive to maximise crop production. That's why they are malnourished. That's why they need aid from China and the West.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 09:26:39 BDT
Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....kooks is on his hols....feetoes uppppy!...sippoes the G and T!!! fount NEVER uses pt.....does it...does not use it.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 09:11:10 BDT
Thank you for point that out, please disregard it

How about this:

Is The Funtoy a regular user of the jolly old public transport/

Is pt his mode of transport of choice?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 09:06:59 BDT
6.30 in Spain.

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 08:40:38 BDT
Beloved up at 5.30!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 08:40:16 BDT lordsy, lordsy....loosoes the language!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 05:29:24 BDT
Is The Funty a fan of the public transport?

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 04:22:31 BDT
Ah...the old here and now nonsense...a quick reality check may help, rather than a fantasy!

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 04:16:23 BDT
Naughtoes, smackoes the wristy...not the bum-bum....

In reply to an earlier post on 17 Apr 2013 02:14:02 BDT
(3) In my luxury sports coupe with the cream leather seats
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