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US customer needs to buy mp3 album from UK Amazon but geographical restrictions block me. Help!


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In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012, 16:43:45 BST
streetyson says:
Sorry RedAlFire, but I don't think Amazon - an American company (whose "British" arm is actually split between Ireland and Luxembourg to avoid paying British taxes) - cares a damn about the World's oldest alliance (begun 1373). Nor do outmoded legally-questionable licence restrictions give a damn (I say legally questionable because such restrictions may be against EU trading laws). As a Brit all I can say is sorry to you my ally, dear friend from Portugal!

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Apr 2012, 17:10:46 BST
RedAlFire says:
Good point streetyson...but it helps to vent sometimes. There are an awful lot of other sites (British) that have the same drawbacks though....! Now if I was from a minority something or other of course....I'd probably get it for nothing!

Posted on 24 Apr 2012, 12:33:16 BST
Personally, I am p@@@ed off with the likes of A. charging ludicrous prices for mp3 downloads & cds way above what is charged in the US. I am delighted that the Aussies threw out a case of 'piracy' brought by mega rich cos. v ordinary consumers. I have never 'pirated' in my life but I object to paying grossly inflated prices. The 75 year copyright law is a sick joke. Even 'big pharma' only gets 10 years before generics can kick in. I have an extremely large 'classical' cd & mp3 collection which I would be glad to share with anyone on this forum for free if I happen to have a piece that you want. I would need technical guidance. Unfortunately, my pop, jazz, folk collection is pretty limited and certainly not modern (I am 64 as the Fab 4 would put it). I have spent thousands over the years and have absolutely NO compunction about this. If I could have undercut Capone during prohibition without fear of death, I would have. These guys business ethics are no better. Caveat emptor.

Posted on 9 May 2012, 22:52:35 BST
Last edited by the author on 9 May 2012, 22:53:34 BST
I have read a bit about restrictions for downloading MP3 tracks from other Amazon stores in other countries, and I have come up with an idea. Couldn't someone ask the branch where you have seen an MP3 but can't get because of legal restrictions, and ask the store to send the items in question to the branch in question, and give the customer 2 or 3 weeks to buy the MP3 downloads, and then download them to their MP3 player or iPod (they accept MP3 downloads as well!), but making sure the customer pays before downloading the items. If the branch of Amazon says 'yes', then send a message to maybe 'msn.com' (example) to the customer, and then Amazon won't be short-changed, will they? Think about it Amazon, this could be a great idea! And PLEASE give it some thought!

In reply to an earlier post on 10 May 2012, 13:18:19 BST
Last edited by the author on 10 May 2012, 13:39:34 BST
streetyson says:
Nice idea Mr English, but it's your bit about "seen an MP3 but can't get because of legal restrictions" in your country, that effectively means you'd be asking Amazon to break the law because you are still the intended buyer living in a country for which the restriction exists, no matter how convoluted the trail (and no matter how odd/questionable the legal restriction). In such laws, I'm fairly sure the act of downloading would be seen as merely the vehicle of getting the mp3 to you and that it is your buying the music and not the download process itself that is the point of the law.

Such laws themselves extend from licensing where companies hive off the rights to sell music in certain markets and in certain countries (and various countries/markets have different laws, eg. for obscenity and copyrights, taxation, political expression etc). So a seller may have only bought rights to sell a product in certain market/country rather than buying more expensive world-wide rights, and another seller may buy the rights to do the same in a different country. Then there are some oddities like an artist who refuses to allow their work to be distributed in a certain country. Kubrick comes to mind: he first withdrew the Clockwork Orange film from UK distribution on the advice of the police after death threats against his family. And I'm sure some musicians may be in the same boat, or in dispute with say a country over taxes, or a company in a certain country over royalties, or because of the country concerned (or a court therein) not allowing them to release in that country and so on.

So, however morally questionable Amazon's tactics are in, say, their own tax avoidance in the UK, I doubt you could expect them to wilfully bypass marketing restrictions, or judge on a case-by-case basis as to whether such restrictions make any sense and be safely ignored. There'd be too little in it for them.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 May 2012, 13:30:58 BST
Have you tried signing onto Amazon.co.uk and simply goining throught he process, ignoring the request to change sites? I'm sure I've done this the other way round using amazon.com for UK purchases and the same for ebay. Alternatively it's on iTunes?

In reply to an earlier post on 10 May 2012, 13:37:26 BST
Last edited by the author on 10 May 2012, 13:40:14 BST
streetyson says:
But Clive, if you'd read the start of this thread you'd have seen that blocks on doing such things are why everyone is moaning!

In reply to an earlier post on 11 May 2012, 00:17:45 BST
I know some time has expired since you posted this, but I just thought I would share my opinion- in that Lovefilm is not much better than Netflix. I've just recently used both of their free introductory offers and neither are really worth paying for. It just reminded me of browsing the shelves of video stores on a Friday night. Unless you're just looking for time killers, you aren't missing much, unfortunately.

Posted on 11 May 2012, 15:00:50 BST
Anonymous says:
Just use a virtual personal network to fool the site into thinking you're in UK
EG Hidemyass.com

Posted on 16 May 2012, 01:52:20 BST
Niall says:
Hey peops.

All of you with a slight technical know-how can use this VPN client - OpenVPN via Private Tunnel.
I just downloaded Train's new album via the Amazon MP3 downloader with ease! And yes, I am a UK citizen with a UK payment card living in Melbourne, Australia.
The client is located here - www.shieldexchange.com
You will need to sign up for the service but first 100MB are free - no credit/payment card needed for sign-up, just an email address. This is a trusted source.
To make it super easy, follow the instructions here - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2389366,00.asp

Enjoy your music!
Let us know of your success too.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 May 2012, 05:39:25 BST
You don't need a UK credit card if you use a UK VPN with a UK Proxy. I just bought Marina and the Diamonds that way.

Posted on 17 May 2012, 05:52:21 BST
Grrr. I love some of the music coming from other countries and just discovered the restrictions you all have been talking about. What a bummer. I am dying to get my hands on music from Only Boys Aloud and others I've seen via YouTube. I can listen to the songs by playing the videos but I want to support the people with my cash. This sucks.

Posted on 20 May 2012, 01:31:48 BST
TradMuse says:
Don't know if this issue has been resolved. I've had this problem, too, but a couple of months ago I purchased an mp3 file from Amazon.uk, which was transferred automatically to amazon.de, because my computer is in Germany. My card was debited but I couldn't open the file because of copyright restrictions. I complained to amazon.de and asked for a refund. Instead they "converted" it -- don't know how -- so that I could download it.

In reply to an earlier post on 22 May 2012, 23:04:52 BST
HSK says:
Still a problem, I'm in Spain and can't get a download due to "geographical restrictions". Who is the person who decides that a computer in Spain is not "allowed" certain downloads - has Mary Whitehouse become the cyberspace resident policewoman since leaving this world many moons ago?

In reply to an earlier post on 22 May 2012, 23:35:54 BST
TradMuse says:
Copyright cops decide, ostensibly to protect intellectual property, but actually the finances of the big record companies. Many times it doesn't even make sense. For example, I can get 11 out of 12 videos on YT from the sane album, so why can't I get the other one? Also, some record companies refuse to release individual songs for download on iTunes or Amazon. Who knows why? Try what I suggested earlier. See if Amazon in Spain will convert the download for you.

Posted on 27 May 2012, 09:51:56 BST
Eira says:
It is too bad that the record companies (and others) don't realize how much money they are losing to illegal downloading simply because they do not make things available in a timely fashion (or at all) for digital download in other countries. Not a smart business strategy.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012, 00:09:06 BST
H. Han says:
Hello Lizzie, could I trouble you to purchase an album for me as well? I'm willing to pay additional fees to compensate for your trouble. If you're willing, please respond to this post. (:

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jun 2012, 11:14:58 BST
Actually it is a bit more complex that the record labels when it comes to Licencing MP3s, UK based the licence is deducted at time of sale via Amazon, US Amazon need to have the licence prepaid by the label, for a limited number... Just been through this with Beverley Beirne - Seasons of Love.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jun 2012, 15:48:42 BST
This really is not Amazon's fault. The copyright cartel [Hollywood & Record studios] just cannot resist punishing cash paying customers by placing absurd restrictions on the purchase and distribution of goods. They actually create the piracy problem for themselves by forcing people to find ways around their restrictions or DRM, then they bribe our politicians to implement trade agreements negotiated behind closed doors that infringe on our privacy and freedom of speech.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jun 2012, 09:57:23 BST
Lady Lizzie says:
Hello, what is it you are looking for? Sorry for the delay in replying.

Posted on 13 Jun 2012, 13:11:16 BST
Dave Woodier says:
Awesome Dusty album

Posted on 14 Jun 2012, 02:06:36 BST
esotericman says:
Set up an account with AmazonUK. I am in the UK but am also registered with AmazonUS to buy things for friends over there.

In reply to an earlier post on 23 Jun 2012, 18:03:35 BST
One World says:
The "geographical restrictions" is stupid! This was never a problem with other mediums! I guess buying the CD is the solution. I hate when the music is ONLY available as a download such as "Helpless When She Smiles" by BSB. Good way to lose a fan.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Jun 2012, 22:17:03 BST
Just use a proxy server to cut through all this rubbish. hidemyass.com springs to mind... you can choose the country of origin you connect to Amazon from, you may still have issues with billing tho..

In reply to an earlier post on 26 Jun 2012, 14:22:58 BST
Skinsmoke says:
Indeed. This has to be a breach of the European Union regulations that insist on free movement of goods, labour and services. Why don't you try contacting the European Commission in Bruxelles? It is not just Amazon that are guilty of this, but also records companies, other music retailers (both online and physical shops), and sites like Spotify (at the insistence of those same record companies).
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