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When will Amazon allow electronic downloads of books I have already bought in hard copy

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In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 08:24:56 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Feb 2012 08:35:28 GMT
Ethereal says:
I didn't mean the actual act of many people voting or clicking the abuse button meant automatic deletion, but surely with the amount of negs certain posts/threads receive there must be plenty of people willing to contact Az directly to complain?
But then I do like a good conspiracy theory!
On/T, I've read some authors/publishers are offering free or discounted ebooks when you buy the hardback, presumably so you can show off a pristine copy on your shelves while carting the other around to read. But this is discretionary, I don't think it should be expected for reasons others have stated. I wouldn't mind an audio book for when I'm doing chores with each paperback I buy but doubt it will happen!
It might not cost to let people download the ebook but it won't increase sales either and that's what matters to businesses.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 10:15:18 GMT
CoffeeAddict says:
Having looked at those badges, I don't think they imply anything whatsoever about impending moderation. The explanation given states "Badges are a great way for customers to identify our best content contributors". That is a very different matter from giving (non-Amazon) "best contributors" the power to moderate other people's posts. These are two quite separate issues which you are confusing.

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 10:59:01 GMT
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Posted on 27 Feb 2012 11:11:57 GMT
Daisi says:
If this does end up being moderated it will be some of the forum members we can thank for that complaining endlessly about nothing at all. Amazon will probably find it an easier job to moderate this forum than end up constantly trying to sort out complaints that people keep sending.

I got a post deleted the other day, it said " I quite understand and ty for taking the time to reply"

The complainers shouted loudly enough until they got promo's banned on here now they will complain endlessly to Az until AZ moderate the forum and then they will shout loudly that it ended up moderated. Some people need to get a life and sort things out for themselves I dont know how they go on in real life if they have a disagreement with someone, maybe they keep calling the police or something.

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 11:55:03 GMT
CBRetriever says:
as far as I know those badges are just acknowledgement and I post over there when this board goes to sleep

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 12:27:20 GMT
A customer says:
superbly put

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 15:20:56 GMT
Walker says:
That's nice...

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 15:24:04 GMT
Daisi says:
What's Nice K. Beavis?

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 15:39:20 GMT
A customer says:
"That's nice" is Beavis' oxymoronic technique of not feeding a troll.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 16:31:07 GMT
Last edited by the author on 27 Feb 2012 16:32:12 GMT
Walker says:
Daisi, have you ever watched Mrs Brown's Boys. It's all explained in an episode and I can state that it is nothing to do with not feeding trolls as Throw me from a train/nosegaye or whatever he chooses to call himself. Although it is aimed at those sad individuals who have nothing better to do than Troll forums trying to wind people up.

That's nice... has a better meaning in the context of what I am using it. ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 18:43:17 GMT
DaveyH says:
"That's nice... has a better meaning in the context of what I am using it. ;-)"

It certainly does KB :o)

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 21:58:12 GMT
A customer says:
That's nice

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 22:03:31 GMT
This is nice too

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 22:24:33 GMT
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Posted on 27 Feb 2012 22:26:49 GMT
Were you really offended not "was"you really offended.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 22:28:36 GMT
A customer says:
your grammer skills aint dried up then? cool

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 22:35:58 GMT
Suze says:
If people keep complaining to Amazon about stupid things, not only will they moderate the forum they might get totally p*ssed off with it and close it completely.

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 22:49:20 GMT
A customer says:
I agree

Posted on 27 Feb 2012 23:08:51 GMT
C. R. White says:
If I buy a CD, I can rip it to MP3 format and copy it to my MP3 player.
By a quirk of technology, it's much harder to do the same thing with books; but if it was as easy, we all would.

It seems crazy to me that ebooks are a similar price to physical books, when there is no paper to be bought, printing to be done, product to be shipped or stored... just a text file to be kept on a server. That's it.
Ebooks should be maybe a third of the price of physical books; after all, they are more limited.
I can't lend an ebook to a friend, or sell it, or give it away; so surely it should be cheaper?

When you buy a book from Amazon, you should also get a free or substantially reduced copy of the ebook too.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 23:16:16 GMT
Maria says:
Why should you get a free or cheaper e-book with a tree book.? Why should an e-book be cheaper just because you can't sell, lend or give it away? There are plenty of cheap and free e-books to more than make up for the cost of the pricier ones. When you buy a cinema ticket they don't give you a free DVD. Authors etc. still have to be paid no matter what format their book is.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Feb 2012 23:30:19 GMT
few words says:
Why stop at an ebook why not a audio book and if they have made a film why not the DVD or blue ray and of course the game as well. Oh and the soundtrack for the film.

I bought my Kindle so that I could buy ebooks as opposed to paper books. I still buy some paperbooks and would not want an ebook thats why I bought the paper version.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Feb 2012 00:12:14 GMT
Maria says:
We forgot-if they turn it into a play we should get a theatre ticket too!!

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Feb 2012 06:39:12 GMT
Denis Powell says:
C R White, if the mass market paperback has only cost 40p to print and distribute, why should the eBook cost 1/3 of the price?

Yes, you can't lend, sell or give away most eBooks away, but you can't store 1,000 paper books in the cloud, you can't increase the font size of a paper book, you can't have a paper book instantly delivered to you while you lie in bed on a Sunday morning, you can't look up the meaning of a word in a paper book without buying a dictionary and you can't carry 10 paper books in your pocket when you go away on holiday. Each format has it's distinct advantages and disadvantages. If you see no value in an ebook over a paper book why would you want one?

You only get a BluRay, DVD and Digital movie in the same package when the rights are held by the same company. In many cases the publisher of the paper book isn't the publisher of the ebook, so for Amazon to give you the ebook, or even reduce the price of it, would cost them money as they'd still have to pay the publisher the same fee. So, while it may be possible for some it certainly would't be possible for all.

If you were a publisher and were selling a book in both paper and e formats which the public were buying in significant numbers at the price you were charging, would you want to reduce your income by giving the ebooks away, or even reducing the price? I wouldn't unless it was part of a marketing exercise that I thought would increase sales overall.

Having said all that, provided I can buy my ebooks without having to buy the paper books I don't care as I disagree that I don't get value for money. The last 10 ebooks I paid for cost me £27.94 (I'm ignoring the free books), but paperbacks of the same books would have cost me £68.01, so I'd have to be able to sell the paper books at an average of £4 each to break even. I'll stick with buying ebooks alone and save money.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Feb 2012 06:51:39 GMT
ICJW says:
What you mean like you get in triple play offerings now, a DVD/Blu-ray and digital edition?

If I'm buying the right to watch, then I should be able to format shift, same for a book, I've paid for the right to read it.

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Feb 2012 07:27:37 GMT
Denis Powell says:
ICJW, you've paid for whatever rights the purchase has entitled you to and no more. If you lease a house you wouldn't expect to be able to sell the house; sell the lease with the owners permission possibly but not sell ownership of the house. You've paid for the right to occupy it but not own it. eBooks are similar, you haven't bought ownership of the book, but simply the right to read that file.

When you buy a paper book you don't own the story but just the paper and the right to read. It will almost certain have the statement "All rights reserved" and then go on to say what you may not do, which will include the phrase "no part of this may be reproduced," which would be involved if you "format shifted". What you believe you should be allowed to do with something you buy you may not actually be permitted to do. That doesn't stop you doing it, however.

If you lend a paper book to someone you have the right to ask them not to lend or sell it on to someone else and you would have the right to be very angry if they ignore your request. Publishers and authors have that same right too.
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