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Why no folders on Kindle and why can't I create categories?

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Posted on 1 Jan 2011 17:35:59 GMT
And don't forget your tinfoil hat

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 17:36:10 GMT
Thanks - agree with all you said but you can at least try to reduce the amount of info about your that is floating around the internet.

It's a [serious] game really - THEY try and get the info, WE try and stop them.

They win of course but at least we can try and fight back.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 17:37:30 GMT
CoffeeAddict says:
And what exactly do you think Amazon will do with all that knowledge of my subversive collections ("Not yet read", "Travel Writing", etc)?

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 17:38:13 GMT

That's it from me - thanks for the feedback.

Happy New Year!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 17:39:14 GMT
CoffeeAddict says:
You're welcome. Happy New Year! And happy kimbling.

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 17:40:50 GMT
@ Welsh Mountain Goat
Please try not to be so paranoid. What on earth do you suppose Amazon want to do with the information they have? In my experience what they mostly want to do is recommend things to you that you may be interested in. And since registering my Kindle most of the recommendations are for free books so they are not even making money out of it.

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 17:57:49 GMT
never mind the tin foil hat.... maybe we should start making tin foil gloves so the Kindle cannot get information about us through our fingerprints!

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 18:02:10 GMT
@Bunny He He He!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jan 2011 18:04:29 GMT
TopCat says:
"There is a principle at stake here - Amazon collects info from your Kindle - fact."

Is it, what's your source?

And even if they do, so what. I buy a ton of stuff on Amazon, they obviously use that to make recommendations to me online so why is what's on my kindle any different.

I'm guessing you don't have any loyalty cards either...

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 19:37:51 GMT
I really wish Amazon WOULD use the information they could access through my Kindle (oops, nearly wrote 'Kimble' there).

Anything to improve the truly dire recommendations system.

Posted on 1 Jan 2011 20:06:22 GMT
Amazon DO hold information about what Kindle books you have on the Kindle, but they don't need to get that information from your Kindle as you bought them from them, they are on your account and they hold them for you! I would not advise putting private information on your Kindle as, should you lose it, you may suffer Identity Theft.

Posted on 2 Jan 2011 00:07:44 GMT
I'm not talking about private information, but about the kind of data it would be possible to crunch into meaningful feedback such as which books I finish, which I delete/archive rapidly etc. Plus of course the usual data about sales which they obviously have.

What I hate about Amazon recommendations is that they always seem to work by a single, flawed rubric; for example, if you buy a DVD, they assume you're either interested in a particular actor or the broader 'genre' (by which they mean category). They don't seem to recommend by either director or screen writer. With books, they operate by ridiculously simplistic categories - so if you order a 'classic', you are bombarded with recommendations for other classics, regardless of theme, age, author etc. Likewise with any other category - biographies being the most glaring example. If I buy a biography, it's because I'm interested in that person/period in history/region etc, not because I'm interested in biographies!

Grrr. Rant over.

Posted on 24 May 2012 14:40:30 BDT
ced says:
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Posted on 24 May 2012 14:53:40 BDT
Bubba Smith says:
I got arrested by some secret government agency and interrogated for 3 weeks (waterboarding is not that bad) before being let go all because of the name of one of my collections. So let this serve as a warning to all, be careful what you call your collections if you leave your kindle connected by wifi or 3G.

Posted on 24 May 2012 15:08:13 BDT
Kat says:
Sorry? I'm a disgusting sheep because I have collections on my Kindle? When I bought all the books from Amazon anyway? And had bought loads more, before they'd even read the word Kindle in a dictionary?

So - they had all that information anyway, and would have done whether I'd registered the Kindle or not?

And for that I'm a disgusting sheep. And you yourself have a Kindle, credit card, passport, driving licence, fill in the census because... ? - but are not a disgusting sheep. Thanks so much for clarifying.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 15:10:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 24 May 2012 15:13:21 BDT
Damaskcat says:
Kat - well put :-)

I can never understand why the people who bleat about 'information gathering' like ced ever use the internet, buy or rent a house, work or claim benefit, have a TV licence, a car etc etc.

Posted on 24 May 2012 15:25:47 BDT
C. J. Pike says:
As far as I am concerned Amazon can recommend as many books to me as they like. I have bought several this way. They also notify me when new books are published and when sales are on. What could be better. I would never de-register my kindle - it defeats the point altogether. I have no information stored on my Kindle to be ashamed of, if they want to look at good luck to them.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 15:32:24 BDT
Willber G says:
Just a nutcase agreeing with another nutcase from last year. Nothing to see here.

Posted on 24 May 2012 15:36:20 BDT
Kat says:
Thanks Wilber, Damaskcat and I agree, CJ.

You could spend your life shuddering in paranoid horror about all the information that's out there on you. Or you could shrug your shoulders and consider how much more important you are, really, than all the other billions of people in exactly the same position. And then just get on with life.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 15:54:05 BDT
Denis Powell says:
Ced, when you buy an ebook with DRM it's "keyed" for each individual device and application so that the number of copies can be limited. If that were not so then any single ebook purchased could be loaded onto every Kindle in the world for the price of one copy. If you have a better method of control than limiting the downloads to registered devices I'm sure Amazon and the publishers will be delighted to hear from you.

The "1984" incident is well known and was a "one-off" that we've been promised will not happen again. Amazon have today deleted a book from my Kindle and Archive in order to replace it with a corrected copy. They asked for my permission to do it and I was only too glad to say "yes" and leave the work to them.

I opted into information gathering when I opened my Amazon account. As a result I've had very many excellent books recommended that I may never have found otherwise. If a friend knows your taste in books and suggests you consider a particular title I assume that you would think that was perfectly acceptable.

Amazon is my friend. I don't buy anything anywhere that warrants being kept a secret and I'm too long in the tooth to be worrying about states and corporations being out to get me. They haven't done so in the last 60 plus years so why should they bother now?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 15:54:36 BDT
SJG says:
I know this is an old post but I couldnt resist.. I thought that a 'KIMBLE' was a type of piano.. or a merchandise inventory tag in the Uk... maybe thats why you had a problem listing your books and categorising ..

Posted on 24 May 2012 19:02:23 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 19:20:04 BDT
Oracle says:
ced, if you're posting on here, that means you've bought something from Amazon. That means that you've complied by handing over your name, address, telephone number, credit card details and details of purchases. Like that's less important than what collections you have on your Kindle. Doh! What a sheep...

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 19:24:42 BDT
Oracle says:
By the way, if you read the details of the Orwell case you'll see that:

a) It was deleted from accounts because some dodgy publisher was selling it illegally. Amazon was upholding the rights of George Orwell's family.

b) Amazon has apologised for what happened and said that they won't delete books in this way again.

Making a mountain out of a molehill IMO. It only got reported because it was Nineteen Eighty-Four.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 19:32:09 BDT
Brian says:
You're well up on Amazonian stuff , Orac.
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