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Initial post: 29 Oct 2009, 21:45:58 GMT
What do you lot think of Umberto Lenzi, do you consider him just the guy who got lucky with Ferox or like me do you consider him an under-rated director with many a great film in his back catalogue, debate, discuss.

Posted on 29 Oct 2009, 22:21:52 GMT
A. Walker, I was going to ask more or less the same question a few weeks ago. I think he is very underrated, I don't have many but have really enjoyed all the films I own of his so far. Nighmare City, Ghosthouse, The House Of Lost Souls The House Of Witchcraft, and Cannibal Ferox obviously. Which one is it with the kid and the washing machine scene, Ghosthouse or House Of Lost Souls? I think that one was House Of Lost Souls.

Haven't got round to buying Eaten Alive yet, don't know if I saw that or not when I was a kid. The one I keep meaning to buy as it's cheap is Nightmare Beach aka Welcome To Springbreak, is that one worth getting? There is also Hitcher In The Dark on my wish list, is that any good?

Posted on 29 Oct 2009, 22:35:01 GMT
Never seen "Ghosthouse" is it worth getting and if so which is the best version to get? As for the washing machine scene its definitely in "House of Lost Souls". I quite liked "Eaten Alive" its a good cannibal film though not quite on level with Ferox or Holocaust, can't comment on "Nightmare Beach" but if its going cheap maybe I should look into it, as for "Hitcher in the Dark" its a reasonably entertaining film that is best bought in the High School Horrors boxset that I recently reviewed, the boxset costs barely more than any of the three films do individually and all three are in my opinion entertaining on some level.

Posted on 29 Oct 2009, 23:14:05 GMT
Just looked into "Ghosthouse" Lando Malak and the UK version by Vipco or their new alias Cornerstone Mdeia/Beyond Terror should do me fine, as for "Nightmare Beach" the US disc by Artisan under the title "Welcome to Springbreak" was possibly cut for an R rating, sadly none of my information so far seems definite so I'll keep you posted if I get any definite info.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Oct 2009, 23:47:50 GMT
A Walker, I have the Vipco version, bought it second hand cheap off someone on here or playtrade earlier this year, can't remember which but it was fine like new, it is the boring black artwork though but wasn't bothered just wanted the film. If you rated the TV movie House Of Lost Souls, then you would definitely rate it, I think it's better. It's well worth adding to anyones haunted house collection.

Had no idea that welcome to springbreak was cut, I always assume that region 1 are always uncut for some reason. Will not buy that just yet then.

Posted on 30 Oct 2009, 00:54:30 GMT
A Walker, just had a look at Welcome To Spring Break on dvdcompare and it says R-Rated - Theatrical Version - No Cuts, I am confused. The DVD Storm all region Italian version just says No Cuts. The US one is 4:3 Non-Anamorphic. Italian one looks better with 1:85 anamorphic and a few extras.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Oct 2009, 01:02:18 GMT
Just seen the new cornerstone media version of Ghosthouse A., like the look of the artwork.

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Oct 2009, 01:31:05 GMT
Just thought I'd let you know A., there are two German versions of Ghosthouse that are cut, Laser Paradise version and Splendid version but the Kultdvd German version is uncut. The Vipco version is definitely uncut but not 100% sure about the new cornerstone media one but would guess it's uncut.

One other thing A., I wanted to ask about Eaten Alive. I read it has the exact same castration scene from Mountain Of The Cannibal God or was that Jungle Holocaust? or both? and also uses the same music from Cannibal Ferox? it doesn't really bother me that much if so but has it got enough going on to feel different enough from the other main cannibal films? characters, death scenes, story etc. I don't expect it to be as good as Ferox and Holocaust but it's definitely worth adding to my cannibal collection then?

Posted on 30 Oct 2009, 12:20:29 GMT
Wow Lando you've been busy, sadly American discs can come out cut and it happens more often than you'd think, they do have the unrated system which pretty much stops censorship in its tracks but unrated films (particularly non-mainstream stuff) tend not to be sold by most of the bigger DVD stores harshly cutting sales and most cinema's don't take unrated films either, in other words America does indeed have the right to free speech but if you don't put up with an R rating almost no-one will find your film thus distributors often cut films for an R rating to increase sales, its a hypocritical system that seems to favour hollywood films.

Did more research and the only comments about uncut versions of "Welcome to Spring Break" were referring to the Italian disc so combined with your research its a safe bet its the only uncut version available, in contrast to that however I did find a supposedly uncut version from Germany on ebay, its one of those hardbox releases, I'm not sure what to think as I couldn't find info on a German release anywhere but it says uncut on the box, do you know any sites selling the Italian disc by the way?

I think for "Ghosthouse" I'll buy the Cornerstone Media version as its about the same price as the Vipco disc but with better artwork (I find those black boxes with the gold writing just a tad dull, still I have about a dozen in my collection), by the way I got "The Spookies" from Cornerstone Media just last week and can confirm they are Vipco, the disc inside was the old Vipco's Screamtime Collection disc with no changes to the disc art nor the disc material (not that I ever saw Vipco's disc but its really obvious).

Now for "Eaten Alive", if you want a good cannibal film its one of the better ones although it does nick a few small gore scenes from the titles you mentioned, still the film is quite different from those two and well worth seeing, the woman's death from "Jungle Holocaust" and a few animal scenes from "Mountain of the Cannibal God" are what was inserted, by the way "Eaten Alive" features a crazed cult in the vein of Jim Jones just to give you an idea of how different the story is to the other films.

Posted on 30 Oct 2009, 22:17:38 GMT
I saw "Eaten Alive" on a double bill with "City of the Living Dead" in some flea pit cinema in Soho way back in the 80s,if memory serves me right it was after a Hanoi Rocks gig.

Posted on 30 Oct 2009, 23:32:41 GMT
A. Walker, going off topic but I've got loads of those vipco dvds including Spookies, they are really cheap most of them. There's usually two versions one with artwork and the dull black gold you mentioned, I have a mixture of both, the ones with artwork are vipcos vaults of horror I think. The Nostril Picker and Drive In Massacre I have are vaults of horror. I know most would say the vipco release are awful horror films, but I would be lying if I said there's one I haven't enjoyed. The picture quality isn't very good on most of them but seen worse picture in my horror collection.

I am glad you mentioned those cheap dvd boxsets, didn't even know they existed on here until you mentioned them. You're right, they are cheaper than buying the films on their own and most of those films in those triple features are on my wish list so will probably buy them instead. There is a cannibal pack including Eaten Alive and it also has Jungle Holocaust too which I want but don't own. Have seen the High school horrors one with Hitcher In The Dark, added that to my wish list. Sorry to still be off topic, but how are they packaged? separate dvd cases inside? or bookstyle?

Sorry I couldn't help you on where to get the Italian dvd of Welcome To Spring Break, wouldn't have a clue where to look for it.

Posted on 31 Oct 2009, 00:07:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 31 Oct 2009, 00:10:11 GMT
I have a few Vipco's Vaults of Horror disc's myself, that's how I came across the masterpiece that changed my life "The Beyond", also I have "Zombie Creeping Flesh" which has a great trashy lurid cover that looks like it was taken right out of the 80's.... oh wait, it was! As for people saying Vipco movies are awful I'd disagree as I too can't think of any I really hated, even the worst of them rank about average in my mind, still they don't always give the best releases with few if any special features and video like quality but if there's no better version I've no problems putting up with such things and don't find it to be annoying or distracting in the slightest.

I got the cannibal pack myself, its really good, incidentally the film you didn't mention "Massacre in Dinosaur Valley" is what we in the UK know as "Cannibal Ferox 2" but its an unnofficial sequel with nothing to do with the original film, as for the packaging you get all three movies in seperate DVD cases as if buying them seperately held in a cardboard slipover box, the cardboard is thin and a little frail but all in all quite well packaged. I think Lenzi must've made a deal with Shriek Show as many of the boxsets I buy from them contain his films and he appears in special features on each film.

By the way have you seen any of Lenzi's giallo? I really liked "Spasmo", "The Seven Blood Stained Orchids" and "Oasis of Fear" but haven't seen any of his others, its rumoured a film of his named "Knives of Ice" is due for a DVD release do you know when its happening or who's distributing it?

P.S. no worries on "Welcome to Spring Break" but keep me posted if you ever do find out where to get the Italian version, I'll do the same.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Oct 2009, 01:18:11 GMT
No A., I haven't seen any of Lenzi's Gallio but am definitely interested, I know I have a few of those you mentioned on my wish list, Oasis of Fear and The Seven Blood Stained Orchids. Not sure if Spasmo is on my wish list, will check that out. Again sorry, haven't a clue about Knives of Ice.

Thanks again for the info about those boxsets, look foward to collecting them. Going to to keep an eye out on those every so often, see if anymore get released.

Yes I will definitely let you know about Italian version of Welcome To Spring Break if I know where you can get it.

Posted on 31 Oct 2009, 16:54:38 GMT
Lando Malak you should definitely add "Spasmo" to your list its his best giallo in my opinion.

Count Zaroff I'm surprised a cinema in 80's Britain showed either of those two movies, still I bet it was an underground thing done behind the BBFC's back, by the way how's your knowledge of Lenzi? I'm trying to learn all that I can after being constantly impressed by his lesser known titles.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Nov 2009, 16:48:17 GMT
Last edited by the author on 1 Nov 2009, 16:49:28 GMT
I've added "Spasmo" to my wish list A.

Also something I forgot to ask you was about was the US dvd of Lenzis "Man From Deep River" aka "Deep River Savages" which is featured in one of those boxsets. What I wanted to know is do you have this and does it work fine? because I read the single disc US version is region code enhanced, I've been put off from buying these. "The Blob" which I want is another that says this. Do you know if it's something to just try and put you off or do they really not work on some or older multi-region dvd players?

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 16:59:51 GMT
I never even knew about there being discs which couldn't be played on multi-regional players, I bought "The Man From Deep River" from US Shriek Show years ago and whilst I can't confirm it working on all players its worked on two of my multi-regional players one of which was quite old (2001 I think I got it) so I'd assume region code enhanced simply means region 1 which we can bypass easily with a multi-regional player, hope this helps.

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 17:42:50 GMT
Not sure if it says on amazon, but on play.com there is some (not many) region 1 with (RCE) and it says it prevents it from working on some mult-region dvd players. I think it tells you on dvdcompare too.

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 18:07:53 GMT
I just looked it up on wikipedia (type in dvd region code) and found that newer players (2007+) do indeed bypass this RCE but also that the RCE relies on region data set on your DVD player from the previous disc, in other words sticking in another US disc just prior to playing these discs will over-ride the RCE, anyway go to wikipedia and see for yourself as they explain it a lot better than I could.

P.S. Just made a huge order, among it was "Ghosthouse" so I'll tell you what I thought once I've watched it, that could be a while though as I'm buying faster than I'm watching lately so have quite the back-catalogue to catch up on.

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 18:31:37 GMT
Thanks for that A., Mine are 2008 and 09 so should be fine then but will read it on wikipedia sometime.

I bet you still got some to come from your previous orders so that will add to your back-catalogue, enjoy.

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 18:50:16 GMT
Yeah, when everything actually arrives I'll have 40 or 50 films to watch (no I'm not taking the p**s), better get started.

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 21:13:48 GMT
AJ says:
Has anyone seen Lenzi's The Iron Master???

Talk about a movie that didn't live up to the video cover which promised dinosaurs and prehistoric vistas but only delivered badly costumed apemen and low budget, quarry set action. It was the pits!!

Hey A.Walker - I got a DVD/VHS combi machine so I got my copy of Atlantis Interceptors FINALLY onto a DVD :-)

Posted on 1 Nov 2009, 22:33:51 GMT
Hi Adam Jackson its been a while, glad to know you finally got "Atlantis Interceptors" onto DVD, still it would be nice if Shameless gave it the restored and remastered uncut release it deserves and with the post-apocalyptic Italian action films being their next targets its entirely possible.

Never seen "The Iron Master" but being a big Lenzi fan I probably will one day despite it not sounding all that great, by the way you being very into the Italian action scene might know a little about Lenzi's crime action thrillers, supposedly he did quite a few and was good at them but I haven't seen any so any info on where to start and what they were like would be much appreciated.

Posted on 2 Nov 2009, 13:35:48 GMT
David says:
I think Umberto Lenzi's horror and giallo films are excellent. Personal favourites include Eyeball, Spasmo, Black Demons and Ghost house. I'm not so keen on Cannibal Ferox due to the animal cruelty which is totally unnessary and ruin the film. I am surprised that no body has written a book about his life and films.

Posted on 14 Nov 2009, 23:35:13 GMT
David I agree someone needs to write a Lenzi book, it would be a great place of reference for someone like me trying to see more and more of his better films, I as opposed to you love "Cannibal Ferox" but I completely understand why you despise it and although I liked the film I can't say the animal cruelty was justifiable or right.

By the way just watched "Ghosthouse" and it was brilliant, its always good to know buried within the vaults of the Italian classics there are still tons of films just waiting for me to discover.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Nov 2009, 00:40:27 GMT
A. Walker, glad you enjoyed "Ghosthouse" what did you think of that music? I liked it but some might find it annoying.
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