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Initial post: 5 Mar 2012 17:38:20 GMT
I can't seem to find an old thread, so I've started my own for fans of nature attack films. I prefer the ones from 1970s/1980s personally, but feel free to mention any, doesn't matter if they've already mentioned already or if they are modern ones or how atrociously bad/boring you think they were.

It's just I do really like this genre and it would be nice to have as many as possible in one thread. When I can be bothered I will make a list of all the ones I own.

If Anthony is reading, could he possibly tell me if he owns "Killer Fish" on DVD starring Lee Majors and Karen Black? I know he directed it lol, but I'm not sure how many DVD releases there are or which is the best release? I can only find the ones below and they aren't cheap.

Killer Fish ( Killerfish agguato sul fondo ) ( Deadly Treasure of the Piranha )
Pirañas Asesinas.(1979)Killer Fish
Killer Fish ( Killerfish agguato sul fondo ) ( Deadly Treasure of the Piranha )

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Mar 2012 18:34:24 GMT
Last edited by the author on 5 Mar 2012 18:51:53 GMT
Sorry to say I haven't gotten round to buying "Killer Fish" just yet though I own fishsploitation from a dozen other Italians which vary wildly in quality, one of the best was Lamberto Bava's "Monster Shark" which Corman made a camp rip-off of recently, it involves a genetic mutant shark/octopus hybrid killing people, lots of fun in a trashy mad monster movie sort of way, I got it on ebay on bootleg but the picture quality was good, it was from that semi-legit company Underground Empire that I rambled on about some time last year.

I'll post a top ten killer animals list so you know my pick of the bunch

1. Wild Beasts
2. Humanoids from the Deep (original)
3. Long Weekend (original)
4. The Pack
5. Razorback
6. The Uncanny
7. Creatures from the Abyss
8. Piranha (original)
9. Day of the Animals
10. Attack of the Crab Monsters

I should note I didn't include godzilla or werewolves as they aren't real monsters and have their own genre each already and didn't include dinosaurs as they are long extinct, I added "Humanoids from the Deep" as they are technically mutant fish though I'm not sure if that one should count.

Posted on 15 Mar 2012 02:32:06 GMT
Horray! Someone's actually started this thread, knew I could rely on you two. I'll add my best, which will naturally include some here already.

*Anacondas: Hunt For The Blood Orchid (just falls short of being termed 'monster' film and we need a good snake one)
*Jaws 2
*The Birds
*The Uncanny
*Long Weekend (both but original is best)
*Pirahna (Joe Dante one)
*Cat's Eye (has a violent pigeon in one segment and a very angry cat)
*Wolfen (as there is technically no Werewolf attacking/killing in it)
*Deep Blue Sea
*Bear (2009 I think)
*Black Water
*Open Water
*The Reef
*Prey (2006 killer Lion movie)
*Burning Bright
*Wild Beasts
*They Nest
*Frankenfish (it's great, I forgot to mention it, you have to see it)
*Black Sheep ( if it counts, I guess it does?)

I won't add 'Kingdom Of The Spiders', 'The Pack, 'Grizzly' or 'Dogs' or 'Birds Of Prey' but only cos I haven't seen them, otherwise they'd be there, as I'm sure all would be good at least. Likewise, though I'm disappointed with the complete result of 'The Day Of The Animals', it's worth a mention here cos narrative and genre wise, it's perfect. Also the French film 'Prey' (2011) is probably just about worth noting-it does count, but underwhelms.

By the way I just got 'Wild Beasts' today. While its more effective and nastier than 'The Day Of The Animals', the clear animal abuse and the sick European attitude to animals back then (hell, still today, likely) does not make it a guilt-free watch. Sick irony that we 'need' animals abused to get them to 'abuse' people, only sadly that part can only ever be acted, and here not always well. The scenes I could have done without were the burning and hosing of actual rats, the horse's heads being fed to cats and the unbelivably sick Japanese style of letting loose big cats on 'livestock'-aren't the fact they're raised for the totally unnecessary demand for meat production wretched enough for them? These huge niggles aside it's a worthy addition to a genre that just doesn't exist anymore. Yet when CGI is perfect (see the 'Chronicles of Narnia' films) there's no need to give animals hell to get them to attack us-the deer, big cats, polar bears, boars etc were great in the battle sequences and I so wish horror directors would think of that to coincide with the thought of: "we need to bring back the nature attack genre-let's get to it"!

Long live the nature goes nuts genre and may be unearth other new species and breeds of it (both old and now) before its extinct full stop, eradicated by torture pron, masked knife-twits, 'I see dead people' twist-ender melodramas, cannibals and council estate brats.

Posted on 17 Mar 2012 10:36:14 GMT
Rich says:
I like Wild Beasts. It is a very hypocritical film though. What did we expect from the co-director of Mondo Cane? The animal cruelty is horrible but I admire the audacity of the movie. They let really dangerous animals run around the streets. the Cheetah vs VW chase is amazing as are the elephants in the airport. Also they menace children with big cats. Not for everyone though.

What about The Nest, Ticks and Slugs for the little guys?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Apr 2012 02:32:15 BDT
It's disgusting in many ways it shouldn't be, that's why I'd like to see a remake, cos the animal abuse to make it would surely have gone. Like 'The Day Of The Animals' needs a remake. But, sadly, no one working in film seems interested as tastes in Hollywood would actually need some, along with a brain and creativity, so guess we'll suffer a long while longer!

I must add 'Shark Attack' from 1999-very good for little-known budget movie. Also the 1995 blockbuster 'Congo'-violent white-haired gorillas and angry hippos.

Posted on 8 Apr 2012 23:32:46 BDT
Scottpaul I think a "Wild Beasts" remake just wouldn't work, first off half the charm is in the fact real animals are doing all these wild stunts so CGI or dummies wouldn't provide the same effect, then hollywood would want to cut out the more uncomfortable scenes like the rat attack and the kids on LSD, I think the worst part would be that it wouldn't fix any of the cruelty done thirty years ago and in the process of making the film hundreds of animals would be slaughtered daily to cover the overzealous catering of big budget sets, at the end of the day I think its better to accept the film as it is and take comfort in the fact that what once wasn't unusual procedure is now not possible to do due to animal rights laws.

By the way Charlie I saw "Killer Fish" and its pretty good though not really a fish movie, more like a jewel heist film with piranha in it which only play a vital role in the last half hour, I'd only get it if you like Italian hiest movies or if you're a big Margheriti fan, some of his best miniatures effects are on display.

Posted on 10 Apr 2012 00:33:14 BDT
Last edited by the author on 10 Apr 2012 00:38:12 BDT
Yes, taking in all you've most intelligently elicited, Anthony, you're right on the money, one "Wild Beasts" IS enough and we should be thankful there is legislation in place preventing such a course ever occuring again surrounding film-making generally. Even more insightful is your mention there of the animals killed for the catering, something very few people would think about, so kudos for bringing that up, which is easily as bad. Intriguingly enough, if there was animal cruelty present during the making of the Hollywood "Frogs" and "The Day Of The Animals" (and it is likely, sadly), it doesn't really transpire on screen, thankfully, apart from with the latter which inflicts cruelty on a certain viewer (me!) in the sense hardly anybody dies and all the animals expire at the end! Why not just live?! "Frogs" was far more unforgiving to everybody so I love it more, but I also held a little sympathy to some of the characters in it! But again I don't find "The Day Of The Animals" bad at all, we NEED these films, it was just so disappointing it didn't do all it should and made some bad mistakes that stop me loving it, not that it exists on region 2 of course as almost all are region 1, so I got lucky with "Frogs" being in the UK. "Grizzly" thankfully does exist for region 2 (unlike "The Pack", "Dogs", "Play Dead" etc.) but it's still the £15.99 price. I may have to plump for it, as the price seems now permanently fixed. But at least it seems to boast a few special features!

Thanks for the "Killer Fish" recommendation, I'll bare that in mind. Regarding modern movies unmentioned here yet, both Hollywood horrors "Frozen" and the more recent "The Grey" with Liam Neeson (not in cinemas too long ago) both feature Wolves doing nasty things in certain areas. Again, not really throughout the films, but strongly featured enough to count, and at least one of films is very good; I still have to see "The Grey", so you might want to try them both. Have you seen "Grizzly Man"? I know it's a biopic, but would you count it. "Based on real events" in a way "Wolf Creek", "Eden Lake" and all the other modern psycho rubbish that trailblaze that sign just aren't, including the entertainment and believability front.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Apr 2012 20:01:37 BDT
Its interesting how you say you prefer the ending to "Frogs" than "Day of the Animals" yet did sympathise with the characters, I think sometimes the ending you don't want leaves a stronger impression but I'm glad the bleak endings aren't too common or we'd likely become immune to its hard hitting yet undeniable charm. You're right about animal horrors being harder and sometimes pricier to track down on region 2 discs, you might want to get a multi-regional player as they can usually be gotten around or below the £50 mark and over a year or less of careful buying you'll get your money back in what you save on our VAT heavy UK discs, I haven't seen "Grizzly Man", its one of those films I keep meaning to get but never seem to get round to, I've got a written list with maybe a thousand such films some of which I fear I'll never actually get round to buying, on the bright side at least I'll never run out of idea's on what to get next!

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Apr 2012 11:41:02 BDT
Last edited by the author on 24 Oct 2013 15:07:28 BDT
Yeah, I think cos the 'Frogs' characters were more identifiable and worse things were happening to them. Barely anyone seemed to die or suffer in 'Day Of The Animals'-I think they all should have gone, would have been far more realistic, not least as they were meant to be totally isolated and surrounded by justifiably hostile critters. That Leslie Neilsen scene I can never forgive-totally absurd and unnatural, and I'm not talking about him even hugging the bear (stupid in itself) but of what he did just BEFORE that! To probably the best character! WTF?!

I think its real sad all the animals had to 'die' at the end aswell, they could have endured, it would have meant nothing, not least as barely any nature goes nuts films get a sequel. Even the modern ones like 'Deep Blue Sea' have to kill all their animal charges, but if it was a masked human knifer/axeman or asbo brat or cannibal, wouldn't even dream of it. Says it all about modern horror today.

I forgot to add 'Komodo'-little seen 1999 horror starring Billy Burke (Bela's father in 'Twilight'). Very impressive CGI and a zipping storyline and a different enemy for a change-and plausible as they are the biggest lizard and do kill humans!

Yes I may well have to get a multi-regioner, you're ot the first to tell me, trouble is I only bought a new TV a month ago and it's got one of those built-in ones! Still, I'll keep it in mind. We do need more nature goes nuts films. Please, indie makers out there. And no I don't mean more sequels to 'Lake Placid'.

Posted on 18 Oct 2013 15:09:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 Oct 2013 15:31:23 BDT
It's been over a year and I still haven't got round to buying "Killer Fish" yet, Antonio. I will definitely buy it before the end of 2014, I promise. Still not sure whether to buy the Italian release or the Spanish release. The Spanish release is usually a bit cheaper I noticed, but the Italian release has always been more tempting. I also noticed a copy on ebay that says Killer Fish in English on the front cover and assume it's an official release not a bootleg?

ScottPaul, I've now got almost every one one of those you listed, mostly used cheap copies although I haven't got around to watching them all yet. So many dvds and so little time. I mentioned it many times that I prefer the 1970s/1980s stuff, so I rarely watch the modern ones. I have watched "Burning Bright" and "Black Water" though and enjoyed those two a lot more than "Open Water".

Also Antonio, I did buy that much superior limited edition release of "Wild Beasts" with extras and booklet. I would've put a link below for anyone else like myself that owns the another world entertainment release and wasn't too happy with the picture quality and lack of important English subtitles in certain scenes, but for some reason it's not showing. I know it's also been for sale on amazon, but just searched and it's listed but currently unavailable as I type.

I feel like I'm waffling on now lol, but a few of the last ones I bought were "Deadly Invasion", "Killer Crocodile", "Killer Bees", "The Nest", "Piranha" (tv remake which I found by accident and never knew existed), "Of Unknown Origin" and "Curse of the Fly"

Of Unknown Origin [DVD] [1983] [Region 1] [US Import] [NTSC]
Deadly Invasion [DVD] [1995] [Region 1] [US Import] [NTSC]
Killer Bees [DVD] [2006] [Region 1] [US Import] [NTSC]
Curse Of The Fly [DVD]
Killer Crocodile.
Piranhas [1995] [DVD]
Nest [DVD] [1988] [Region 1] [US Import] [NTSC]

Posted on 21 Oct 2013 12:55:52 BDT
'Chaw' is an excellent Giant Boar horror made by the makers of the equally cool Korean Giant Salamander film 'The Host'. Was made a year ago or so and very cool.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Oct 2013 13:30:52 BDT
I don't have "Chaw" or "The Host" yet, but they have been stuck on my separate nature attack amazon wish list for ages, it's just I'm a lot more fussy and harder to please with the modern stuff so never rush in buying them.

One I did somehow miss from your original list that I just noticed now is "Bear". I noticed you have reviewed it, so will give that one a read. As it's you that's recommended them, I might order all three of these this week as all three dvds cost next to nothing anyway.

Posted on 21 Oct 2013 19:29:18 BDT
Arch Stanton says:
Has anyone mentioned Phase IV, Squirm, Dark Age or White Dog yet?

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Oct 2013 23:51:15 BDT
Arch, I do have those yes, apart from "Dark Age". I did originally say I'd list all the ones I own, but still haven't got round to it. You weren't to know that though, so thanks anyway.

I think I've just about got them all together now on their own shelves, so if I am ever in the mood to list them all in this thread then at least I know where most of them all are, lol. I really need to sort out my dvd collection again sometime soon though and change them around, because it's got ridiculous now the length of time it can take me to find a film.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Oct 2013 14:59:33 BDT
I'm not suprised modern stuff puts you off and I think this horrible trash deluge of unconvincing joke animal horror-about mountain-sized snakes, crocs, sharks, octopus-often with halves of each others bodies (!?) are responsible, but don't let this frighten you, cos they have nothing more to do with animal-attack horror than the 'I see dead people fakes' have to do with supernatural horror, nor asbo-brat and cannibalism to do with actual zombies. I don't know where you're based exactly, but if a poundshop is near you, 'Chaw' turns up quite often in these. Both 'Host' and this won't let you down. 'Bear' itself is good fun and nicely done. Ignore the miserable reviews, it's merely ther same sort of people moaning that animal-attack films will never be 'Jaws' again. Where's the fairness and logic. After all, how many times do horror buffs review a slasher or a cannibal film they'll love and hate it with a printable review telling everyone to "avoid like the plague" cos it's not 'Halloween' nor 'Night Of The Living Dead'. Per-leease. Of course, if you are disappointed in it yourself, that's your right, but at least I doubt it'll be "cos it's not Jaws". After all, why see it in the firts place? I think it compares with 'Grizzly' pretty well, but anyway, it's stilla good deal. I've wasted at leasta tenner on three supernatural fakes ovver the past few weeks ('The Wrong House', 'Dead Souls', 'The Lodge') all exactly alike an all horrible, plsu caught 'Beneath' and 'Shutter' on TV a few nights ago, and they were equally bad for the same fake supernatural reasons, so whenever a 'Bear', 'Prey', 'Burning Bright' or 'Chaw' gets made, I'm not just so impressed someone's bothered to do a proper animal-attack today, I don't waste time wondering will it suck, cos it very likely won't on a small budget and kept with reality-unlike this giant croc-python-gator-boa-megalodon-frankenstein d-movie nonsense the studios churn out cheap as farting (only the latter's possibly a bit more necessary, if not to all concerned).

There's a bit more choice on region1-well 'Maneater' with Gary Busey-about a Sumatran tiger I believe, looks like it could be cool too. You can buiy it singly at around £5 or £6 usually, but it's also part of a pack that doesn't necessarily feature what should be featured for an animal attacker. After all, giant fake animals that never existed even in prehistoric times and gargoyles might work well, but do we want them?

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Oct 2013 15:12:59 BDT
I'd like to thank you, Arch, for naming several titles I was unaware of, most noticeable 'White Dog', which I've now read about it and it sounds great, and unfairly treated-still now! Yet cack like 'Happiness' is allowed to be controversial for the sake of it, though is too desperate and absurd to mean anything, despite being accalimed up the arse! Critics! I've heard of 'Dark Age' through someone else who called it Black Water' before therew as one, but couldn't remember the title. Still no dvd release though I see.

To anyone else I could add 'Blood And Chocolate'-the watered down cert robs it of most of the violence and bloodshed, with annoying cutaways at crucial moments, but it's still as wolf-worthy as both 'The Company Of Wolves' in many places, and more specifically, 'Wolfen', just more of a souffle.

Posted on 12 Nov 2013 19:02:59 GMT
AJ says:
Has no one mentioned Prophecy from 1979 yet??

You can find the whole movie on You Tube, incidentally Day Of The Animals was on there too - the full film

Posted on 13 Nov 2013 11:18:20 GMT
AlanK47 says:
Thanks for the heads up on Prophecy & Day Of The Animals. I've been watching a few random movies on YouTube. Will add these 2 to my list. cheers.
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