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Breaking Locks

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Initial post: 27 Mar 2012, 20:42:13 BST
[Deleted by Amazon on 29 Mar 2012, 20:27:36 BST]

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 20:59:02 BST
Matabot says:

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 22:00:18 BST
Last edited by the author on 27 Mar 2012, 22:02:54 BST
monica says:
no% noone's, read breaking lock's cuase it looks like Short Stories Ar'nt worth It. Your Attempts to sell this book are arrogant & I hope futile. 'Grammar Jesus' did make me smile, though. In fact, your knowing how to spell 'grammar' gives me the hope you're a troll and not someone who believes himself a writer. . . .

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 22:17:28 BST
Actually, I think we're looking at a teenager. When I was about 14 I wrote a play called the Woman from Auntie which read a bit like the first few pages of breaking locks. I did know it wasn't quite publishable though.... Matthew, mate, seriously, this isn't your best work.



Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 22:25:31 BST
Last edited by the author on 27 Mar 2012, 22:27:01 BST
bluecat says:
Thanks for bringing this book to our attention, Kindling. I've just added it to the "Worst Synopsis" thread over in the kindle forum.

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 22:41:29 BST
Matabot says:
It may suprise you that I didnt write it nor, do I know who did...

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 22:58:27 BST
Matabot says:
Although I did get it, and its actually pretty good, but carry on...

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 23:21:08 BST
G. D. Parker says:
Kindling: Similar thread to "short stories, are they worth it" if you want to promote your book why not go through the right channels that only cost hard work and time and more hard work oh and more time. This isn't the way to get your book noticed, it's clear you're either the author or a sidekick to the author....

Posted on 27 Mar 2012, 23:47:53 BST
Matabot says:
Yes, i was possibly going to get boy in the striped pygamas aswell, which costs the same, or there about and i was wondering wether a longer or shorter was worth it, or which is more likely to give you better satisfaction. Anyways this is pretty good, and like i said, im of no relation, it came up on a kindle page.

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 06:01:34 BST
Garscadden says:
I read the sample and it was dire - only it's mother could ever love it...

In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2012, 09:50:27 BST
gille liath says:
Why would you would start two threads promoting this story, which everyone agrees looks dire, unless you had some kind of vested interest?

The second thread is the clincher for me, if there had been any doubt.

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 11:14:35 BST
Dan Fante says:
I think you're all being unfair. The sample of the book provided on the product page is pure (unintentional) comic genius.

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 12:13:59 BST
Last edited by the author on 28 Mar 2012, 12:14:42 BST
Actually the clincher for me was "who are you? Grammar Jesus?" or something along those lines in the other thread. No-one over the age of about 16 would ever say that. Likewise, only a teenager could be so naive. Seriously if you're not the author, the author's paid lackey or the author's best friend, stop already because you are doing the book more damage than good. I read the first three paragraphs of the sample but since it couldn't decide what tense it was written in I gave up.

As Alex pointed out, you're making yourself look a plank and if you're not the author it's rubbing off on him.



Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 12:27:48 BST
Garscadden says:
The mad tenses are fantastic...

Are there any stories / books by (skilled) authors who use changing tense for dramatic effect? I could imagine Iain Banks doing so, for example.

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 17:26:44 BST
Interesting. I'm not sure. It makes everything read too much like a conversation between kids at the back of the school bus for me... it's just a bit odd. Something I do, too but I edit it out.



Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 21:34:31 BST
Oracle says:
Why is Breaking Locks now called Turn of Fate? Or should that be Turn of Fait?

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 21:37:01 BST
Garscadden says:
To try and escape the cacky word of mouth? Notice the cover isn't updated. Classy.

Posted on 28 Mar 2012, 21:42:49 BST
bluecat says:
Neither are the other numerous errors in the blurb. Dear, oh dear...

Posted on 29 Mar 2012, 12:05:28 BST
Garscadden says:
Looks like he pulled the book down entirely. Wonder if it will go back under a different title later in the week?

Posted on 29 Mar 2012, 19:14:28 BST
I may be being too soft-hearted for my own good here but I feel a bit sorry for Kindling209MB. I get the impression he may well be the author of "Breaking Locks" and was pretty excited about and pleased with his story, and the fact it was published on Amazon. If that is the case, I know that he broke the rules and that he invited the criticism he has received by doing so and by his poor presentation, but I can't help thinking of him slaving over his keyboard on what he imagined was a great piece of work, only to find that his best was far from good enough in the eyes of others. The humiliation seems to have been too much for him, since the story has now disappeared altogether. I can't rid myself of the image of this broken man sitting in his garret with his head in his hands and unable to believe that he has no ability to spell, use grammar and punctation or even tense correctly, and absolutely no writing talent whatsoever. I would expect he has never read a book on the subject, and in that, sadly, he is not unique amongst the multitude of writers who publish here. (I am not being critical of indie writers in general by saying this, some are very good, merely stating the obvious). Nevertheless, I still can't help but sympathise with him over his shattered dream. (Or am I being naive?). At least no one can accuse him of plagiarism. By the way, K209MB, I rather liked the first title.

Posted on 29 Mar 2012, 19:25:48 BST
Ethereal says:
I felt a pang too when I read his book had been removed but prefer to think he's taken it off to polish it and will upload it again when it's truly ready. We all have to be able to take criticism whether self-published or not and anyone who is passionate about writing will continue and strive to better themselves. These forums are a taste of what an author can expect when releasing their oeuvre on the world so better to be prepared imo than misled by well intentioned posters and friends.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Mar 2012, 19:36:16 BST
I agree entirely, Ethereal. The problem is I don't think the story will ever be truly ready because the poor chap has neither the ability or talent to polish it - and it would take an awful lot of polishing! He might do better turning his passion to something else, which to me seems the saddest part from his point of view.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Mar 2012, 19:38:49 BST
gille liath says:
That's a pretty tragic picture you paint, but - whilst I think most of us have tried not to be unnecessarily unkind - that's the risk you take when you try to ram something down peoples' throats.

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Mar 2012, 19:42:54 BST
Last edited by the author on 29 Mar 2012, 19:44:08 BST
Ethereal says:
I failed Art GCE to the shock of my teacher never mind self, who blamed the examiner and tried to persuade me to appeal the decision. I refused and hankered after being an artist for decades but never touched a paintbrush again. Then I found writing a few years ago and can now say art wasn't meant to be.

Posted on 29 Mar 2012, 19:43:25 BST
Last edited by the author on 29 Mar 2012, 19:44:30 BST
monica says:
I was a bit troubled by our responses & returned here to say that after reading the excerpt I thought there was a good chance that M.T. McGuire was right in suspecting the OP was a teen-ager; if so, I regret mocking him. Now I see a couple of other posters have also had second thoughts . . .

If he's an adult, I think there's no problem: He and so very many others need a swift short shock strong enough to make them forswear for all time publishing books. But if there's any chance he's not an adult, and there is, gentle discouragement would have been more appropriate. In either case, Kindling (on off-chance you're still following this) you're not a good writer but most self-published writers aren't, judging from what I've seen on this site: You're only one bad writer amongst many many others, and you're not even the worst of them.
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