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Amazon dont pay tax on £300.000.000. of sales in UK


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Initial post: 7 Apr 2012, 09:34:05 BST
Amazon you are distroying British High Streets. and you avoid paying UK Corperation Tax on your profits generated in UK because you are registered abroad.
People should boycott Amazon until it does the decent thing and pays its Taxes in the Countries were it trades.

Posted on 7 Apr 2012, 09:58:58 BST
Last edited by the author on 7 Apr 2012, 09:59:28 BST
@ says:
Look in;

Should I continue to use Amazon when it avoided paying tax on £3.3 billion last year?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/forum/deals/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1DEIHNWYF5SA9&cdThread=Tx14R7K0GBKZ39D

And the whole tax the UK could have gotten was 100 million - typical Guardian sensationalism !

Posted on 7 Apr 2012, 10:29:16 BST
Helen Lianos says:
I have used Amazon happily for many years. I was aware that the company was taking advantage of tax avoidance loopholes in the U.S. (as a mail order firm they can avoid paying state sales taxes, but local firms cannot), but had assumed that there was a level playing field in the U.K. I am dismayed to discover that the same morally repugnant behaviour is taking place in the U.K. Unless the company makes radical changes, my conscience will make it impossible for me to continue shopping at Amazon. This will be inconvenient to me: I will miss the the excellent website, vast range of goods, and convenience. But I just can't condone the way this company does business. I don't want to give my custom to a company which isn't ready to pay its taxes.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2012, 10:36:10 BST
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Posted on 7 Apr 2012, 10:44:44 BST
Last edited by the author on 7 Apr 2012, 10:50:52 BST
@ says:
Did you read their headline ?

Then see in middle of the essay 1.34% profit ?

The headline should have read... Amazon didn't pay less than 100 million in tax.... however they do have in excess of 15,000 workers in the UK.

However that doesn't look nearly as sensationalist as "Amazon dont pay tax on £300.000.000. of sales in UK"

And "idiot" - well done on not looking like a typical guardian reader.

I work for Google - so compared to us - Amazon pay ALOT of tax indirectly and directly via their workers.

If we are evil then just turn off the internet :)

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2012, 10:52:16 BST
Is there a group, or site advocating a boycott that we could join?

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2012, 10:53:09 BST
Is there a web site or group we could join that advocatersd a boycott of amazon to put pressure on them to PAY THEIR TAXES?

Posted on 7 Apr 2012, 11:01:00 BST
@ says:
Ye it's called;

www.play.com
www.comet.co.uk/
www.dixons.co.uk/
www.tesco.co.uk

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Let us know how you get on when something goes wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2012, 12:24:58 BST
Dpmallett says:
if Amazon products save me money who cares!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Apr 2012, 14:48:06 BST
Billy says:
Hmmm hypocrisy everywhere. yes of course they should pay tax but then I don't trust the politicians to spend it wisely anyway. Amazon have in excess of 15,000 workers in the uk because they have to not because of any loyalty towards us. Yes Amazon could be accused of destroying the High Street but the landlords are to blame for charging high rents.

Posted on 7 Apr 2012, 17:52:05 BST
Hmm, pay 2 or 3 times the price for a Blu-ray in HMV instead of Amazon? Goodbye high street!!!!!!

Posted on 8 Apr 2012, 11:01:29 BST
Mr Chris says:
destroying uk high streets? you realise that half of the shops on UK highstreets and their owners are also part of these kind of scams.
even companies registered and paying tax in uk use loopholes like 'selling' their brand to a holding company in a tax haven then paying extortionate licensing fees, suddenly profits at said company drop and close to no tax to pay.

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Apr 2012, 15:38:23 BST
Daniel says:
"guardian don't do sensationalism,idiot"

They invented the story about the News of the World deleting Milly Downer's phone messages (and then buried the 'apology' on page seven).

Posted on 8 Apr 2012, 15:40:49 BST
Daniel says:
"The multi-millionaire columnist Polly Toynbee is this morning ranting against tax dodging corporations in the Guardian. The paper has even set up a campaigning website with fancy interactive graphics. According to the their own annual report Guardian Media Group made £306.4 million before tax. Using astute tax planning and legal manipulation of the tax laws; such as the use of an equity owning trust and a Caymans Islands offshore corporation to avoid stamp duty, they managed to only pay get a rebate of £800,000 in tax last year. That is less than they paid the Guardian Media Group's chief executive, Carolyn McCall, she got a package of £827,000 whereas so the media fat cats got paid by HM Revenue Commissioners a mere £800,000 in corporation tax."

http://order-order.com/2009/02/02/guardians-tax-hypocrisy-is-ridiculous/

Posted on 8 Apr 2012, 17:39:21 BST
I think everyone is missing the point here, amazon are not doing anything illegal.

We need to look at the people (crooks) who make our tax laws.

I would also add we need to ask why the government taxes us so much, where is it all going and why is it never enough (£900b national debt)

Posted on 8 Apr 2012, 19:12:32 BST
Last edited by the author on 8 Apr 2012, 19:15:42 BST
L. Kelly says:
Yes, they do pay tax on their UK sales. It's called VAT and it applies to all physical goods, excluding zero-rated products like books, shipped to the UK from any Amazon EU store.

Corporation tax is not a tax on sales. These newspapers are being very deceptive when they throw out these huge sales numbers, because corporation tax works on profits - not turnover or sales.

As for being based in Luxembourg, companies in the European Union are able to incorporate in any of the twenty-seven member states and operate from there.

Posted on 8 Apr 2012, 20:34:21 BST
T Pim says:
Perhaps people would get slightly more emotional if the company they work for avoided paying tax and national insurance by going offshore, then offers its employees a contract of employment which avoids them having to pay holiday pay, sick leave. So much for UK/EU rules to protect you. Just think if all companies did this??

Posted on 9 Apr 2012, 08:37:51 BST
BeRo says:
May I suggest that if you're not happy, you actually buy from the High Street? More and more people want the bargain prices, and whilst the juggernauts like Tesco help, they're now being outclassed by the likes of Amazon. I'd much prefer the to get the best price, my purse can't afford anything more extravagant.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012, 11:14:35 BST
Suetonius says:
Rubbish Madam,
If Amazon have found a found a loophole in the corporation tax system,good look to them.
I only wish my company could do the same,as would millions more like me.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012, 11:17:43 BST
Suetonius says:
Rubbish Madam,
If Amazon have found a found a loophole in the corporation tax system,good look to them.
I only wish my company could do the same,as would millions more like me.

Posted on 9 Apr 2012, 13:35:00 BST
E. S. Carver says:
Well come on, if your gonna blame Amazon for stuff well they pay VAT and import charges where required least they are putting revenue back into the UK, you want to complain about something, how about the way your local police force is squandering the tax payers money and giving our tax money to foreign companies for foreign cars like Merc's and BMW's now Hyundai all foreign car makers, why arn't they buying Vauxhall and Fords, if the Local Goverment doesn't give a crap on supporting our economy, that is OUR hard earned cash that they are sending out of the UK so why should we boycott Amazon??

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012, 15:19:36 BST
Suetonius says:
Well said, I could'nt agree more.
As the owner of a business,I wish I could avail of this loophole.
Good luck Amazon.

Posted on 9 Apr 2012, 15:20:21 BST
Suetonius says:
Well said, I could'nt agree more.
As the owner of a business,I wish I could avail of this loophole.
Good luck Amazon.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012, 15:43:47 BST
Helen Lianos says:
Suetonis says "as the owner of a business, I wish I could avail of this loophole". The fact that he doesn't is presumably because, unlike Amazon, his business isn't big enough or rich enough to be able to employ a load of clever tax lawyers assisting him to structure his business to take advantage of tax loopholes. Amazon has an unfair advantage over small local traders, and when it can pass on the savings in the form of much lower prices, customers are happy -- but at the price that no small, local, more personal trader has a chance of competing, so they all go out of business. That's why I object to this sort of tax avoidance, not because I'm anxious to pay higher prices or to give the current government more money to play with -- although the more they have, the fewer excuses they have for cutting services.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Apr 2012, 15:50:13 BST
The problem is NOT Amazon...lets be honest, if we could, as individuals, find a way to save alot of money in tax, we would do it. Its the system thats wrong. The EU should agree that all companies based in the EUropean countries should pay, lets say, 70% of normal tax rates, then all the E.U. would gain and the companies would be getting a 30% tax relief. To leave the gate open is asking for problems and at the moment its wide open.
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