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Initial post: 25 Jan 2013, 13:20:44 GMT
Charlie says:
Hey everyone, looking for some thoughts on apples. One of our 2 apple trees passed away last year :(. It was an eating apple tree, not sure the variety but they were not particularly nice, had tough skin and cotton wool texture. The remaining tree is a Bramley and is amazing. We fill buckets with fruit on it's good years. So my question is this. We need to plant a replacement tree to pollinate the Bramley, so what should it be? My hunch is a crab apple, good pollinator and great for making jams. Any experience, thoughts greatly appreciated ta muchly x

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 13:31:58 GMT
Me, I'd always go with an eating apple or one that can be used for both. If you could get an American Jonathan, Winesap or Mackintosh, that would be the one I'd go for. Particularly the Winesap.
I'll admit I don't know much about UK apples.

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 14:37:20 GMT
Bearman says:
As Bramley apples are effectively genetic mutants, they cannot fertilize themselves or other apple trees, so the standard recommendation is to plant 2 other apple trees, so that they can fertilize both the Bramley and each other. Having said that, I have a big old bramley tree in the garden which, apart from 2012, usually produces apples by the truckload, and there are ceratinly no other apple trees within 500m (it may be more).

I would certainly go for eating apples as you have a cooker already. Cox's Orange Pippin has to be the best tasting apple in the world and would always be my first choice. James Grieves is a good second choice and crops earlier than the Cox's OP (late harvest).

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 14:55:28 GMT
Isobel Ayres says:
I really like Jazz and Empire apples for eating - very crunchy and juicy but also tasty (I find Cox's a bit mealy in texture, but they are a good heritage apple, which is worthwhile).

For some reason, this is making me mourn the decline of the Victoria plum. My Grandparents had a tree and it was amazing - tons and tons of fruit every year. Almost never see them in the shops though - Waitrose do them, but not seen them elsewhere.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 15:12:35 GMT
Stu says:
i personally agree with isobel on this one,as i too like my apples very crunchy and juicy.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 15:33:10 GMT
Charlie says:
Thanks you guys. Thats interesting about getting two trees Bear. Maybe an eater and something else then. I have read about the Cox being the one to buy from gardeners point of you, wondered what cooks thought. Possibly the crabapple as well? Or a quince.
We have a victoria plum tree Isobel, it is amazing. We give bags full away. My daughter made herself sick by stealing the low hanging and wind falls 2011. 2012 was a wash out for everything. Lost the apple and a pear tree.
Hope this year is better as need to stock the jam cupboard back up

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 15:40:38 GMT
pixie says:
I don't know about the planting bit but I like braeburn....xxx

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 15:48:09 GMT
Isobel Ayres says:
Hope you find something good, and we don't get an April washout again.

Victoria's are amazing, aren't they? Definitely Queen Empress of the plums!

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:00:20 GMT
Bearman says:
If you are thinking about things other than apples, well you could consider Mulberries, Medlars, Quince (some fanatistically ornamental varieties now available), or how about a "Family Tree" where different varieties are gratfted onto one plant (you can have 1 apple tree which gives 3 different apples, ditto for pears etc), Greengages are fantastic little plums - easy to grow and very versatile in the kitchen, then there are the other plum types such as Mirabelles and Damsons (great for cooking and jams - apple and damson crumble mmmmmmm), and don't forget cherries! The sour Morello cherry is very tough and can even be grown trained up a north facing wall - it has the best of flavours for cooking. I could go on and on and on........

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:04:00 GMT
Is it warm enough in the UK for quinces? I suppose it depends on where you live...
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Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:37:21 GMT
Bearman says:
Yes! Both the traditional type and the more modern Japanese types

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 18:36:12 GMT
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Greengages are my favourite plum for eating or jam. But they have such a short season here, and since they are brought in from France they're expensive. Here they call them Claudia plums. I bought some red plums for the dinner tomorrow (her husband is diabetic so fruit is better than icecream for him), if there are some left I may have a crack at a clafouti, only 25 years late!

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:05:42 GMT
Charlie says:
Yum, I love clafouti, we have hired a cherry tree this year. Seems crazy as we have a monster one in the garden but have yet to beat the birds to a single fruit. So all being well we shall feast on clafoutis, cherry jam and anything else cherry'y later in the year. Am going to look into greengage, and quince as well as an eater I think. Eek this forum is costly with all the great tips to be found.
Thanks everyone xxx

Posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:27:33 GMT
Kelp Bed says:
To be honest, I prefer plumbs myself, but that's just my personal choice of course....

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 19:49:47 GMT
Isobel Ayres says:
I'm sure it must be - they aren't very popular now but I'm sure I've read them mentioned in various Victorian novels.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013, 20:21:04 GMT
Kelp Bed says:
Yes. It's a shame they have all been dug up. But that was some time ago now.....:(

Posted on 26 Jan 2013, 07:22:58 GMT
I see what you did there! LOL
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