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Rigoletto from Mantua-live-Domingo DVD release ?

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Initial post: 31 Oct 2010, 13:53:11 GMT
Mrs Pisaroni says:
Does anyone know if the recently televised 'Rigoletto' with Domingo and Griglo will be released as a DVD? Only genuine replies please-no Domingo bashers.

Posted on 31 Oct 2010, 14:29:18 GMT
mrs p: Yes I've followed you to this thread as well! I wouldn't be surprised if it was released on DVD but I have no idea when. Personally, I don't think the recording it live on location was a good idea, I didnt enjoy the Tosca that was done in the same way either. A studio recording or non-live location recording would have given us a better chance to evaluate Domingo's Rigoletto.

In reply to an earlier post on 31 Oct 2010, 16:15:48 GMT
Mrs Pisaroni says:
I saw the 'Tosca' which I enjoyed. I think it worked marginally better than the 'Rigoletto' which I also enjoyed although feel that a stage version would be a better chance to evaluate the performance. It did start off a little shaky but by 'Vendetta' and the final Act I felt Domingo had achieved a lot. I started the discussion as a matter of fact and my reference to Domingo 'bashers' is because of the nasty comments that have appeared on YouTube. I'll just keep my eyes on this one I guess. Interesting to hear your view though, thanks.

Posted on 31 Oct 2010, 17:22:09 GMT
If you haven't already seen it, the film version of Carmen with Domingo, shot in and around Seville is a lot more successful but I think it was probably recorded in a studio and dubbed.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Nov 2010, 14:29:49 GMT
Mrs Pisaroni says:
Yes Mr C, I have seen the 'Carmen'-I used to have it on VHS (Sadly no longer) You are right about the dubbing I think.

Posted on 1 Nov 2010, 18:31:53 GMT
P. Hardy says:
Not to 'bash' Domingo, whom I like a great deal, I didn't much enjoy him as a baritone I'm afraid. Superb actor & musician of course. I thought the tenor was pretty good - and the Sparafucile (Raimondi?)

Posted on 2 Nov 2010, 09:56:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 2 Nov 2010, 10:02:11 GMT
The tenor had a good voice but seemed to sing everything at full-volume.Whether this was because of the unusual recording venues I don't know but lack of subtlety in modern singers has been commented on elsewhere in this forum.

In reply to an earlier post on 24 Dec 2010, 11:23:22 GMT
Vicki Marty says:
I don't know if it'll be released as DVD. It always takes a long time. But you can get a DVD of it on www.premiereopera.com for a very fair price.

In reply to an earlier post on 27 Dec 2010, 13:15:36 GMT
Mrs Pisaroni says:
Thanks for your post. Checked the site-$4.99 seems way too low for this if it is a kosher DVD and as its a US site I don't think that it would be playable on DVD players in the UK-but thanks again for your reply. I'll just keep checking for a Europe DVD release.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jan 2011, 16:53:56 GMT
Marsue says:
I have just looked at the premiereopera.com website as well, but I want a good copy that will play in the UK, so I will continue to look out for it - much prefer to buy my DVD's from Amazon where I know they are true copies.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jan 2011, 18:13:50 GMT
Mrs Pisaroni says:
@PC Geek I totally agree with you-the price on that site is too low to be true-Hoping it will eventually come up for sale here-if its a true copy I'd be prepared to pay a high price. To me it just does not look right.

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jul 2011, 21:05:33 BST
Edgar Self says:
Mrs. Pisaroni (We are half related it seems) -- Public Broadcasting System, the U.S.'s BBC, telecast Domingo's Mantua "Rigoletto" last night. I'd forgotten this discussion, but Geoffrey Cryer reminded me. Maybe a general DVD release is next, let's hope. It was a little claustrophobic, so I moved back from the telly and closed my eyes. Vittorio Grigolo impressed despite all the hype, and Domingo is still quite unbelievable.

Posted on 18 Apr 2012, 21:30:36 BST
Mrs Pisaroni says:
After much soul searching I ordered the DVD from Premiere Opera.......£7.74 including shipping........and.......it plays on my DVD!!! So I have to say a big YIPEE DO!!!!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012, 16:13:43 BST
Edgar Self says:
There's a very active discussion of opera DVDs, the Met's and others', on the Opera Forum at Amazon.com.

Posted on 19 Apr 2012, 16:49:55 BST
Piso: My name is Geoffrey (God's Peace) not Daniel; I wouldn't want to enter that particular lion's den.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012, 17:47:44 BST
Edgar Self says:
I quite understand, Geoffrey, and only view it indirectly by periscope from a secure bunker myself. But I thought my consanguinous half Sgra. Pisaroni might find it of interest for operatic DVDs. That thread and the Met's Saturday Afternoon Broadcasts are by far the most active on the Opera Forum at Amazon.com. Regards to Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego.

Posted on 19 Apr 2012, 18:09:15 BST
Piso: I did a quick browse but couldn't find the appropriate thread. In passing I noticed the question 'Who was the greatest singer - Callas or Tebaldi?'. Now I would say Tebaldi but wouldn't go to the stake to defend that, denigrate Callas or spit venom at anyone who disagreed with me. That makes me too wimpy to enter the Opera forum.

FYEO: I only have three Met DVDs (all conducted by Levine, I think) and don't have two of them to hand to check details but: -

Aida - absurd costumes, I think I would enjoy it more as an audio experience
Magic Flute - Hockney's Glyndebourne designs lose some charm when blown up for the Met's vast spaces and Araiza's voice is showing wear
Ariadne auf Naxos - Beautiful production, Norman is superb, 'even the orchestra is beautiful'.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012, 18:29:21 BST
Edgar Self says:
I also have very few operatic DVDs, Geoffrey. A few more on VHS given me out of charity. I may see them once, if that. On the other hand, if performers are of unusual interest, don't appear here, and there's no other way, I have in desperation resorted to DVD to see how they sing or sit at a piano, or in the saddle. It's more an auditory thing, except on the telephone, which is visual.

Tebaldi vs. Callas is a perennial divide. I don't know either well but imagine Tebaldi might be easier on the ear. I think it was necessary to SEE Callas, and I javen't even on film.

Amazon.com has many Either/Or boards, e.g., "Do You Like Hucbald Better Than Xenakis?", or, "Who Is Greater: Dittersdorff or Spohr?" They have also a mania for voting, counting things, and enshrining them, which is wearying to the soul. Perhaps it's something to do with democracy.

I comfort myself with Beecham's "the function of music is to free us from the tyranny of conscious thought."

Now I don't pretend to be perfect myself, but it strains credulity and makes me value quiet connoisseurship, against which I'm a principal offender.

Posted on 19 Apr 2012, 18:39:08 BST
Piso: In past visits I have noticed the 'games' they play. Usually a thread primly begins 'Now we come to the second round...' and proceeds with a set of rules so arcane that you need to have the same Byzantine mindset as the author to understand them.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Apr 2012, 19:04:37 BST
Edgar Self says:
Yes, Geoffrey, it's puerile. Anything rather than discuss the music, or listen to it. Virtual fisticuffs have erupted over voters violating the set-time limits across the International Date Line. Umberto Eco may write a novel about them.

Posted on 20 Apr 2012, 09:24:49 BST
Piso: Umberto Eco wrote an unreadable novel about an island on the International Date Line - 'The Island of the Day Before'. Perhaps the gentlemen you refer to could be banished there and take the novel with them.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012, 12:40:31 BST
Bella says:
Piso: Some years ago the Irish Times (still rather a good paper) asked readers to rank the top ten novels written by Irish writers, from a list of around 100. It was as idiotic as trying to rank performers, composers, operas etc etc, but it did get us all discussing (starting with which novelists qualified as Irish) and even, I am happy to say, reading! In other words, these kinds of competitions have their uses, provided no-one thinks that the outcome means anything - for example, Ulysses was a clear winner, but it turned out that a lot of the people who gave it top spot hadn't actually read it....

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012, 16:37:29 BST
Edgar Self says:
Bella -- Yes, that's how it often turns out. And as everyone knows, many of the best English (British) writers were Irish ... Goldsmith, Yeats, Shaw ... and a surprising number of composers also.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Apr 2012, 16:44:01 BST
Last edited by the author on 20 Apr 2012, 18:08:28 BST
Edgar Self says:
Geoffrey -- That's the book I had in mind, Umberto Eco's "L'Isola de la Dia Proxima" ... "The Island of the Day Before Yesterday" ... about the International Date Line and the discovery of longitude, so important to the Royal Navy. The book was preposterous and became increasingly so until I tossed it into the dust-bin Frustrating.. Eco's novels have each been progressively worse ever since "The Name of the Rose", which was almost readable thanks to his borrowings from Jorge Luis Borges, Conan Doyle, and Voltaire. Borges is even portrayed in it (spoiler's alert).

His English translator, William Weaver, also writes on music.

But what can we expect from a professor of semiotics who lives in Bologna and teaches in Milano or vice-versa. He was here recently. I wanted to see and hear him lecture out of curiosity, but the small hall was instantly sold out. Just as well.

Posted on 20 Apr 2012, 17:48:15 BST
Piso: I read and enjoyed 'The Name of the Rose' and 'Foucault's Pendulum' but stalled on page 177 (the book mark is still there) of 'The Island etc'. It was too expensive a book to toss in the bin but I don't think I will ever take it up again. Also, I haven't tried any Eco since then.
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