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Initial post: 17 Sep 2012 22:24:12 BDT
Hang Ten says:
Has anyone seen this? Would like to hear opinions.

"SPOILERS AHEAD"

Don´t know what to make of this. The start was fairly boring and I had people coming and going during the first 20 mins, so I´m thinking I missed some vital dialog that might have explained the ending. it came out of the blue and to me didn´t make sense, and finished without explanation, Hence me thinking I missed something earlier on.

Or was it trying to jump on The Serbian Film bandwagon by having him slaughter his child?

Posted on 25 Feb 2014 14:15:29 GMT
I prefered the first two halves and then it went downhill towards the end, with it's lame & overrated Wicker man influenced ending.

Posted on 25 Feb 2014 15:00:54 GMT
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Bauer says:
Since I've had daughter in 2011 I cant watch anything that involves hurting kids. Before I had her I would of been repulsed by such a film as the Serbian film obviously, but now I just cant watch it at all.

So if this has someone slaughtering a child im going no way near it.

Posted on 25 Feb 2014 21:07:52 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Feb 2014 21:22:13 GMT
Yeah Bauer it's not really overly gratuitous but maybe it's a good idea to avoid. I watched it with a mate and when it happens we both sat there with hands over our mouths in shock.

I'm a massive Ben Wheatley fan, love all his films, such a brillaint film maker imo. Firstly I think saying "lame and overrated Whicker Man influenced ending" is a little unfair. The influence is there from the start. He just brilliantly frames it differently. The whole unease of everything. The way something is going on that isn't clear, the symbol (a pagan like symbol repeated through the film from the first frame) scratched on the back of the mirror by Gal's girlfriend, the agreement signed in blood, the weird doctor (the feeling of oppressive disorientation).

I completely disagree about the boring beginning, this is IMO where Wheatley shines, he mashes these genres. The tension at the dinner party, the way that entire part of the film plays out. It's like what you'd expect from somebody like Mike Leigh, British social realism, a kitchen sink drama, tense relationships, emotional explosions. And then he stretches it into something resembling crime and finally into horror. And as it progresses there's an ambiguous nature to what they're doing. Are they doing good by killing these obviously evil people? But if so why do some of them seem so calm, excepting, almost happy? And the violence is brutal and graphic.The tension almost unbearable. But when it's finished for me the violence isn't really the thing that niggles at me, bothers me, scratches at my mind. Few horror films (The Wicker Man included) have ever done that. Create an unease that lingers past its viewing time. There's no complete answers, that's no bad thing, but people who say the ending is divorced from the rest of the film haven't been paying attention imo.

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Feb 2014 21:33:25 GMT
Tetro

Maybe "lame" and "overrated" are not fair to describe the ending, my expectations regarding the "twist" ending may have been too high.

I did enjoy the foboding atmosphere of the film though and the violence was graphic but not gratuitous.

Another film that's similar to Wicker man with its forboding atmosphere is, And soon the darkness starring michelle dotrice.

Posted on 25 Feb 2014 23:18:40 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Feb 2014 23:25:23 GMT
I'm not sure I agree Kevin, sorry. Other than it's full of cliche's, horribly predictable, it relies on the dubious trope of a beautiful woman being kidnapped (so cliche'd you even know which one will get kidnapped way before it happens). It's such a lazy mechanic IMO and possibly sexist if I thought too much into it. The script is woeful, some parts really bad, and the actions of the women angered me at times. Sorry but And soon the Darkness gives films like Hostel a good name.

I don't mean to sound like I'm ranting at you Kevin, I apologies if that's how I'm coming across. I really didn't like much of that film. Have you seen the Kurt Russel film Breakdown?

Posted on 25 Feb 2014 23:24:25 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Feb 2014 23:26:39 GMT
Sorry, wrong version of And soon the Darkness lol. The one that annoyed me so much was the 2010 film with Karl Urban. I didn't think there'd be another film with such an odd title. But I double checked Michelle Dotrice's name and realised my mistake. No I haven't seen the one you actually mention, is it good? Or at least better than the remake?

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In reply to an earlier post on 25 Feb 2014 23:42:55 GMT
Last edited by the author on 25 Feb 2014 23:45:12 GMT
From what i watched of the original on The horror channel, it is damn sight better than the pointless remake and i would recommend it.

I didn't get to see the end but from what i watched of the first part of the film, it has like i said, that same Wicker man and Straw dogs sense of forboding and not knowing what will happen next.

And yeah i've seen Breakdown, a gem of a thriller with a great Kurt russell and J.T. Walsh.

Posted on 26 Feb 2014 00:08:17 GMT
Yeah J.T.Walsh, such a great actor. Sad about his death. He's one of those actors that so many people don't know who he is until you start reeling out this list of brilliant roles and they go "Oh yeah, is that him?".

Posted on 26 Feb 2014 01:50:55 GMT
mister joe says:
I loved Kill List.
I liked Sightseers but wasn't blown away.....but I feel I could grow to appreciate it more over time with more viewings.I think Kill List is one of the best British films I have seen in a long time.
I thought A Serbian Film was incredibly funny.Just ridiculous.....I was laughing by the end.
The funniest film of the last five years I'd say.

Posted on 5 Mar 2014 13:49:37 GMT
Ben wheatley's next film is set to be an adaptation of JG ballard's Highrise, an "orgy of sex, violence & cooked alsation"

Tom (loki) hiddleston has signed on to play the anti hero of the story

Sounds very interesting indeed:)

Posted on 5 Mar 2014 15:12:17 GMT
mister joe says:
Good golly that's made my day.
One of the best directors around directing one of the best novelists that ever lived.
Highrise is a brilliant and savagely funny novel.
Cronenberg's Crash is pretty much my favourite movie of all time,JG Ballards Crash is my favourite novel of all time.
Bodacious news dude.

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Mar 2014 15:55:56 GMT
Yeah i know, i saw the article in this months Empire magazine and i remembered you mentioning that you are a fan of JG ballard & Ben wheatley:)

Posted on 5 Mar 2014 19:57:24 GMT
mister joe says:
Ahhhh.....I remember the days when I could afford magazines.I like Empire but I think I prefer Total Film as it's slightly more irreverent.
There like five pound a pop now......

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Mar 2014 20:21:17 GMT
Mister joe

I tend to buy it every now and again, coz like you said it's like "five pound a pop these days"

I remember as a teen in the 90s, when it cost about £2 odd:)

I also remember when Empire came with a free disc of movie music or a video with trailers of fourthcoming films on hit:)
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