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Django Unchained?


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Initial post: 11 Jan 2013, 12:05:37 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Jan 2013, 12:09:27 GMT
So has anyone seen this yet?

I watched it last night.

I'll try to give my spoiler free thoughts.

I did enjoy the film it had some trademark Tarantino style to it and some great dialogue.

It's relatively over the top in terms of the violence kind of similar to Kill Bill in that respect.

Overall I enjoyed the movie...But....

I was expecting a throwback to the Spaghetti westerns that Tarantino loves (His fave film is Good, bad and Ugly). In that respect I was disappointed, Kill Bill had more spaghetti western charm than this did.

This is a far more complex film which deal with Slavery and the moral repugnance of the southern slave owners, which contrasts well with the moral authority of the German King Schultz, who is a contradiction in himself being that he is a Bounty Hunter. But I think Tarantino wanted to show A German being appalled by the barbarity of the uncivilised Americans, which is a mirror image of the way Germans were shown in Basterds.

All this is very interesting to be sure, but you are expecting Django to be a bit more kick ass? Well that's the thing, as an action movie I don't think it worked very well.

The conversational scenes were far better for me than the action/violence scenes and in fact I was not impressed with the action climax which is inevitable from the first few scenes.

I think the film my have been a better film overall by simply exploring the whole slavery issue without the quick draw, brain exploding Bounty Hunter action.

Tarantino appears in the film as usual, but with a surprisingly good English accent and only very briefly LOL.

Overall enjoyed the movie more than I did Basterds, but not as much as I liked his previous films prior to that.

I do want to point out some very brilliant performances

First of all

Christopher Waltz, is again brilliant in this, what a fine actor.

Leo DiCaprio - As always mesmerising, again a fine actor on his game and I think perhaps a Supporting actor nod for him? He overplays it so well, that every scenes he is in, you cannot take your eyes from.

SLJ - Took me a moment to recognize him when he first appears, but it is a creepy and menacing performance from Jackson.

Jamie Foxx was particularly underwhelming IMO, nothing interested me about his character at all, but there is so many great small little roles in this and mixed with the big 3 I mentioned it's still a master class of acting.

Oh and Don Johnson, brilliant as the only briefly on screen Big Daddy LOL, loved him in this.

Anyway, has anyone else seen this yet?

Posted on 11 Jan 2013, 13:55:48 GMT
Ah the action forum.

A place of tranquility, where one can discuss things with oneself in isolation from civilisation.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 14:21:58 GMT
Post Soviet says:
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That's why I stopped posting on 'What did you watch...', at times felt like some sick exhibicionist.

Anyway, Tarantino is amongst few must see directors (add Haneke, Lynch, Woo...), even if there is occasional turd. In books I have same relationship with Stephen King, regardless him going downwards since around 1991, keep buying all his stuff. THere is always hope.

I'll get Django on DVD, then...

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 14:50:21 GMT
Yeah its a DVD or rental at best, I dont think Id watch it many times like some of Tarantinos other movies.

However the acting performances of Waltz, Jackson and Di Caprio should be seen by all, all 3 are phenomenal and one of them has to win supporting actor this year.

Though I am yet to see Lincoln, that will be hopefully sometime soon.

Posted on 11 Jan 2013, 15:03:13 GMT
I'll wait for the DVD I think. This did have me intriuged but I've not been a fan of Tarantinos more recent films, I didn't particularly like Kill Bill and thought Death Proof was terrible.

Posted on 11 Jan 2013, 15:04:18 GMT
Bauer says:
Cam your not very patient are you mate LOL ... I will always comment when I get a min.

In any case it maybe a bit soon to even post this and get loads of responses its only just been released hasnt it ?

I will say that i am really looking forward to it, and im glad its about the slave trade i find that much more interesting than cowboys and indians myself. i will report back when I have seen it.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 15:06:41 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Jan 2013, 15:06:51 GMT
Bauer says:
As a note on Tarantino films in general I love them all part from Jackie Brown. I even love his recent filsm , well when i say recent i mean Kill Bill and Inglorious Basterds.

I agree Death proof was a bit cack too, had some great scenes it just all seemed rather pointless.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 15:13:04 GMT
Yeah but its sans spoilers, so people can still reply if not seen aka you LOL.
Anyway c'mon you know this forum is a dead end LOL.

Dont get me worng im not a cowboys and Indians man, but Spaghetti Westerns and Django itself were always about crime and criminals, the anti hero movies.

Django I dont think people would see as an anti hero, due to his Background and what Slaves endure in this movie.

Thats cool, but I question as to whay he called it Django?

If he had not called it Django, it would have just been a Tarantino western, the fact it is and mixed with Tarantinos love for spaghetti westerns, made me think the film would be one thing whern in fact it was another.

I said on another thread I dont think Tarantino could make a proper Spagh western, because by in large they are not about dialogue, but atmosphere and music. Look how long it is before a single word is spoken in TGTBATU, and even then its a taciturn performance by most of the actors.

I dont think Tarantino can make that kind of movie, I dont think he should either this movie is great as it is, a Tarantino western, I just think using the name Django a mistake on his part, perhaps it started as one thing and became something else.

Either way you'll likely really enjoy this, it can be powerful at times and the performances of the 3 I Mentioned are worth watching for.

DJango himself for me was the most uninteresting character in the movie.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 15:14:44 GMT
I was not overly fond of Basterds, it was ok, and I despised everything that was Death Proof. But I loved Kill Bill and I also loved Jackie Brown.

what was it you did not like about JB, it is a bit different to his other movies, but I really enjoy it.

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Jan 2013, 16:35:39 GMT
Bauer says:
"what was it you did not like about JB, it is a bit different to his other movies, but I really enjoy it."

I'm actually not sure it was so long ago i just remember being bored by it? .. maybe its time i gave it another viewing.

yeah it is dead on here fair enough

Posted on 11 Jan 2013, 19:27:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 11 Jan 2013, 19:27:41 GMT
You cannot begin to know my disappointment when I found out that this film was NOT about Django Reinhardt.

Posted on 12 Jan 2013, 13:34:16 GMT
Paul Tapner says:
It doesnt open in this country till friday so nobody's going to be able to reply before then

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2013, 14:54:46 GMT
Ah I am a little ahead of the curve then?

I see

Bauer - Maybe you should watch JB again, I remember enjoying it far more each time I watched it, it grows on you, but it is a peculiar movie in some ways.

Miss Marriot - I am not sure Django Unchained would be an appropriate title for a film about Reinhardt LOL. I take it you have never heard of the Django movies?

Oh and Paul, the fact its not out probably is not an indication of why this thread is slow.

I started the first Hobbit thread at the same time. its been watched by millions already and been out for weeks. It has less replies than this one LOL

Posted on 12 Jan 2013, 15:23:13 GMT
Bauer says:
Is there a general movies thread rather than just "action" maybe it's busier ?

Ive not seen Hobbit yet either, I'm a big fan of Richard Armitage fan so I will .

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2013, 15:25:30 GMT
Not that I know of, just this one.

Its badly named though, should be the lack of action forum.

Youd honestly get more attention posting a movie thread on the video games forum

In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2013, 21:33:35 GMT
Last edited by the author on 12 Jan 2013, 21:35:09 GMT
well Cam, i thought Django Unchained would have been a PERFECT title for a film about Django Reinhardt because when he was 18 his caravan caught fire, and as he was very badly injured he was told he would never be able to walk or play the guitar again! In fact the doctor wanted to amputate his paralysed right leg but he showed them all wrong by learning to walk with a cane and we all know he played that wicked guitar with only 3 fingers on his left hand! Unchained!

I can only hope some budding young film maker will make a film about him yet!

And no, i'd never heard of any Django movies before, but i'm a swing dancer so I hear a lot of Django!

Posted on 13 Jan 2013, 00:27:05 GMT
mister joe says:
I am bored of Tarantino now,it took me a couple of years to see Basterds which was ok,Death Proof must be one of the most disappointing films i have ever seen.A killer called Stunt Mike played by Kurt Russell kills chicks.Fast car,should have been perfect.Instead it was embarrassing drivel,clunky,boring dialogue,terrible performances.Spending what 40 mill to make a film look like a b picture????It didn't even follow the laws of the grindhouse.For me Tarantino when he first showed up was a shot in the arm,his cultural impact cannot be denied,i always remember first watching Fiction a great movie for its time.But now style is not enough.I need more....
Sayin that i have not seen Django,another poster mentioned how he thought it was going to be in the tradition of westerns but it wasn't.
I already have a sinking feeling.I have NOTHING against people who love his movies,any director that can generate buzz/excitement about going to the cinema is alright in my book.NO WAY would i put him up there with David Lynch or Haneke.....thats a bit steep.
I'd place him with his class Fincher[who i prefer...Fight Club]Singer,O Russell...that ilk.Anyone see his interview on c4 news?
I actually agreed with Quentin there,he is under no obligation to constantly justify his work,that smug interviewer......again a horrendous act of violence occurs and the powers that be have to point to films.Its the directors faults of course....not parents,not politicians....

Posted on 13 Jan 2013, 00:29:47 GMT
mister joe says:
Stephen King will always rule.

Posted on 13 Jan 2013, 00:56:17 GMT
Last edited by the author on 13 Jan 2013, 01:03:12 GMT
I always hoped Woody Allen would do a film about Django Reinhardt. He's obviously got an affinity for the music and I loved Sweet and Lowdown about a fictional 30s jazz guitarist who considered himself the second greatest guitarist in the world after Reinhardt. Reinhardt's music is sublime and he makes one of two musicians I'd love to see films about, other being Leadbelly. In the meantime they'll sing and play their guitars on late summer nights :)

As for Tarantino's film I haven't seen it but in truth any enthusiasm I had for his films has long gone. I think he makes schizophrenic films that when structured purposefully as such work (Pulp Fiction) but otherwise they just remind me of an album filled with random covers. He's obviously a talented director but he desperately needs somebody like Roger Avery to make sure he keeps the story focused IMO, or at least structure it to his strengths.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jan 2013, 02:37:55 GMT
The story is actually reasonably solid and linear for Tarantino in Django. But as said I encourage anyone to see this simply for the performances of Waltz, dicap, jackson

Phenomenal especially dicap for me.

Posted on 13 Jan 2013, 04:51:25 GMT
mister joe says:
That Roger Avary has really hit the skids last time i read about him,he killed someone whilst drink driving.Quite liked Rules Of Attraction movie.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jan 2013, 12:34:06 GMT
G. Hanks says:
"I actually agreed with Quentin there,he is under no obligation to constantly justify his work,that smug interviewer......again a horrendous act of violence occurs and the powers that be have to point to films.Its the directors faults of course....not parents,not politicians...."

I'm with you on this, I saw the interview and agree that Tarantino shouldn't have to have the violence discussion every time he releases a film. Especially as an 8 minute interview is not exactly going to give any time to have any real depth to a discussion that has been had many times before. Agree that Krishnan had the channel 4 "smug look" when he was asking his questions which is the sign of a journalist with an agenda, not someone that wants an open discussion about anything relevant.

Posted on 13 Jan 2013, 14:17:13 GMT
mister joe says:
Cheers Hanks.....that Krishnan bloke you could almost see him smiling beneath his hand,there is this whole culture of interviewers now who at times seem to believe they are more important then the subject they are interviewing.I am the last person who thinks famous people should be treated with synchophancy but as stated i agreed with Quentin.I also liked how he was explicit in saying that the interview was "a commercial for the movie".No messing round with that.As you say an 8 minute interview is hardly sufficient for a discussion on violence.
Fishing for a soundbite,which they got.I get really annoyed with this ongoing "argument".Why society should be looking at Django Unchained for answers beyond entertainment is beyond me.If someone,a viewer cannot make a distinction between fantasy and reality they are pyschotic.Jeffrey Dahmers favourite movie was Empire Strikes Back,he watched it obsessively....are we going to ban Star Wars?
These propoganda merchants fail to realise that a disturbed mind can read subtexts in a childs movie.Its so lame and it always happens after a horrendous act of madness/violence,simply diverting attention from the real issue of gunlaws,therapy,education.

Posted on 14 Jan 2013, 14:54:05 GMT
Bauer says:
Ive read Tarantino has been slagging James Bond off saying Skyfall doesnt deserve the praise it is getting, it's just an action film.

Prententious noob head !

Posted on 14 Jan 2013, 16:24:18 GMT
Well the more I watch skyfall the less I like it to be honest Bauer, dunno why, just cant be bothered watching it anymore.

If I had to pick id rather watch Django.
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