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Betrayer of Worlds (Fleet of Worlds) Audio CD – Audiobook, CD

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  • Audio CD
  • Publisher: Blackstone Audiobooks; Unabridged edition (12 Oct. 2010)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1441761403
  • ISBN-13: 978-1441761408
  • Product Dimensions: 13.2 x 2.8 x 14.5 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (19 customer reviews)
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Exceptional freshness and suspense . . . full of startling revelations about human and puppeteer politics. Booklist

A new Known Space book, particularly one with new information about Puppeteers and their doings behind the scenes of human history, needs recommending within the science fiction community about as much as a new Harry Potter novel does - well, anywhere. But Niven and Lerner have produced a novel that can stand on its own as well as part of the Known Space franchise. Locus

A far-future SF mystery/adventure set two centuries before the discovery of the Ringworld by humans. . . . . Intriguing human and alien characters and lucid scientific detail. Library Journal

A very worthy addition to the ongoing Known Space future history. SciFi.com

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"Exceptional freshness and suspense . . . full of startling revelations about human and puppeteer politics." --Booklist

"A new Known Space book, particularly one with new information about Puppeteers and their doings behind the scenes of human history, needs recommending within the science fiction community about as much as a new Harry Potter novel does - well, anywhere. But Niven and Lerner have produced a novel that can stand on its own as well as part of the Known Space franchise." --Locus

"A far-future SF mystery/adventure set two centuries before the discovery of the Ringworld by humans. . . . . Intriguing human and alien characters and lucid scientific detail." --Library Journal

"A very worthy addition to the ongoing Known Space future history." --SciFi.com

--This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

About the Author

Larry Niven is the award-winning author of the Ringworld series, along with many other science fiction masterpieces, and fantasy novels including the Magic Goes Away series. Beowulf's Children, co-authored with Jerry Pournelle and Steven Barnes, was a New York Times bestseller. He has received the Nebula Award, five Hugos, four Locus Awards, two Ditmars, the Prometheus, and the Robert A. Heinlein Award, among other honors. He lives in Chatsworth, California.

Edward M. Lerner has degrees in physics and computer science, a background that kept him mostly out of trouble until he began writing science fiction full-time. His books include Probe, Moonstruck, and the collection Creative Destruction, and he has collaborated with Larry Niven on the other books in the Fleet of Worlds series. He lives in Virginia with his wife, Ruth.

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The 'Known Space' universe of Larry Niven is quite excellent.
The 'Fleet of Worlds' series by Niven and Lerner is also very good, but this final book in the series which leads up to the classic 'Ringworld' is, a book too far in the series and does not mesh very well with the future (Ringworld)

The creation of fictional alien species is very difficult and successful attempts are rare, other than humans that look slightly different. Larry Niven did very well with the Puppeteer species a long time ago with their herd instincts and constant fear and paranoia. Niven & Lerner did an outstanding job with the underwater group minds of the Gw'oth in earlier novels.

In this one, instead of being alien, they both behave as if they were humans. The authors have destroyed their previous outstanding work in this sloppy novel.

There are also serious editing errors in Ch.40 (Significant chunks of text repeated, slightly changed).

Sorry (from an admirer) but this is NOT up to standard.
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The relentless exploitation of the known universe series continues. In this technically competent and pacey narrative Niven and his henchman Lerner expand the story of the New Terrans and bring in a replacement character for the now damaged Sigmund Ausfaller. After the events of the last volume Ausfaller is not quite the man he once was and cannot be trusted by Nessus to act as an appropriate scout for the Puppeteers. Enter one of the best characters to ever have his back-story over expanded, Louis Wu.

I won't spoil the plot but needless to say this unfolding narrative mess takes place well before we meet Louis again in Ringworld and takes some of the throw-away hints of his life and expands them to the nth degree to provide an entry point into the story. So we meet Louis in disguise as a drug addled mercenary on Wunderland and in dire need of a deus ex machina aid. Enter Nessus and the plot, such as it is, swings into action. After a few pages though the ghost of old EE "Doc" Smith settled onto my shoulder and the hoary old tropes of 1930s space opera descended upon me. Boarding space craft after nuking them? Check! Convoluted booby traps and plot twists? Check! Ham fisted political shenanigans? Check! The lists goes on and on and whilst this is a readable book, in fact I finished it in a single setting, it has just booted more of the heart out of the Known Universe and made it a less magical place. Frankly Larry my own eight year old imagination filled in the gaps around Louis Wu a damn sight better than this book or any of this series has.

But of course you can safely ignore this review, because I, like so many other sci-fi readers of a certain age will buy anything with "Larry Niven" in the author bar on reflex. But please, for the sake of our memories and the sake of your own reputation. Stop now.
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The fourth 'Worlds' novel. For a long time I resisted buying into yet another 'series', but having read all the rest of Niven's books about Known Space and the Ringworld I finally succumbed, and I'm glad I did. It is not Niven's best work by any means, but even so it is a lot better than much of what masquerades as SF from other authors these days.

Most of the action takes place in the last century before the first Ringworld novel, and describes more of what happens six hundred years after a human colony ship was the first to encounter the Puppeteers, here as the self-styled Citizens, and why the Puppeteers embarked on their migration and ends immediately prior to the discovery of the Ringworld.

The action follows on from what occurs in Fleet of Worlds, Juggler of Worlds and Destroyer of Worlds and wraps up most of what happens between the Colonists and how they interact with the Citizens and the new species the Gw'Oth.

Of course it is not that simple, because there is also a strong emphasis on the activities of Citizens Nessus and Achilles as they continue to attempt to manipulate the humans while opposed by Louis Wu and Sigmund Ausfaller, and the plot twists and turns and knits with some of the events described previously in the other Known Space books.

It helps if you have already read Niven's books about Known Space but this is not essential, so long as you read each of the first three Worlds novels before this one. Being the fourth of a series don't expect to find a completely neat ending with all loose ends tied off, but it is still eminently satisfactory, apart from a lingering urge to buy the final exciting episode...
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This series of collabarative books act as glue for Larry Nivens earlier works set in known Space.
The Piersons Puppeteers have raised a group of humans to use as scouts and explorers while they steer their entire solar system out of the galaxy.
These orphan humans become more and more suspicious of the puppeteers motives and things eventually come to a head.

Each book presents a secret history of events that explain how and why various other novels came to occur.
As such it really has very little dramatic impact unless you have read larry nivens known space series.
Most of these books and this one is no exception lead up to the Ringworld novels.

Rather than being a prequel - its a more or less throw away fluff piece with little of Nivens magic touch.
As such it reads as a rather derivative piece where L.N has lent his name and universe to Mr Lerner.

I did enjoy all the books in this series but while reading them I was acutely aware that it was only because they reminded me of all of Nivens best works.
If you are a huge niven fan you will enjoy this - if not dont bother.
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