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  • Audio CD (4 Jun. 2012)
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  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Collector's Edition, Extra tracks, Original recording remastered
  • Label: Union Square Music Limited
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"These disturbdances are a perfect free-form accompaniment to A Secret Wish (SALVOMDCD14). Proof that Propaganda are capable of divine interpretations and, if you ve not already succumbed to their complex beauty, this could serve as an inspired introduction. These remix artefacts normally aren t worth the plastic they re engraved on but this limited edition is a real collector s item. Call it a private indulgence. MELODY MAKER, 1985 Propaganda s biggest hit, Duel , is well known for its freaky alter ego, Jewel . Expanding that concept, the landmark electronic pop album from which 'Duel' was taken, A Secret Wish (1985), was remixed and remodeled just a few months later (primarily for the American club market) into its clever, rather cool and occasionally a little disturbing counterpart, Wishful Thinking. This refashioning of A Secret Wish into a whole new album is a definitive example of a lost art form, the remixalbum , one of the formats and musical styles that made the middle of the 1980s quite different from any time before or since. Other classics of the genre had already been released by the time Wishful Thinking was created, with Soft Cell s Non-Stop Ecstatic Dancing, The Human League s Love and Dancing and Imagination s Nightdubbing, all acclaimed pop-dub masterpieces, all appearing within a matter of months, all remixalbums (as opposed to remix albums) - full length, cohesive, brand new works, not compilations of disparate mixes. Wishful Thinking (as element 23) is a top class addition to the Salvo/ZTT catalogue. The album last saw the light of day on CD in 1990s and because we know that there was never enough output from Propaganda to satisfy their fans, it gives us great pleasure to present a newly remastered version with six bonus tracks, five of them previously unreleased, plus a 12-page booklet featuring rare photos and an excellent new essay from compiler Ian Peel.

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Cruelly overlooked when they were actively making music back in the mid-80s, arty German synthpop group Propapganda are finally getting the attention they deserve. This remix album was the last proper release by the classic line-up (which included the distinctive vocals of Claudia Brucken and Suzanne Freytag) and puts a strangely modern spin on songs from their debut LP "A Secret Wish". Largely put together by producers Bob Kraushaar and Steve Lipson, the mixes on "Wishful Thinking" are ahead of their time, and should appeal to anyone who enjoys modern dance music.
It must be stressed that these are NOT the original 12" mixes - you'll need the recently-released "Outside World" compilation for those - but they are certainly good enough. The extended version of "Sorry For Laughing" is such a barnstormer that it's hard to believe it was never a single, and mixes of "P-Machinery" and "Jewel" brilliantly build on the drama of the originals.
If you're into synthpop, then you need to get into the classic, ZTT-era Propaganda. Buy "A Secret Wish" for the songs, and "Wishful Thinking" for the beats.
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This was the first Propaganda album I ever bought. I had loved the songs of the band already eventually getting this album as my first Propaganda experience. I've always been introduced in the 'remix' concept and I think the roots of it lie within this album. 8 tracks that basically disconnect the original songs and puts them back together again as a bit of a mish mash of music. First off - there are hardly any vocals on this album, so the focus is on the music, the production and with slightly twiddling of mixers, different emphasise on elements separate from the original versions. You have 80's remix dub elements colliding with different focuses on elements from the original songs. Because I wasn't familiar with the original album 'A Secret Wish' this was all I had to work on. Huge industrial arrangements with little blasts of vocals and unexpected surprises.

Abuse (1) is a great opening track (remix of Dr. Mabuse) - full of exciting and drama, that we're getting into an album that will be very different from you expect.

This collides into Machined (remix of P:Machinery) which makes the bass line the drive of the thing as it forces itself along.

Laughed (remix of Sorry For Laughing) is the dub idea, deconstructing the song as if it sounds like it is being sifted through a meat mincer, with the drums being a dominant part of the mix.

Loving (remix of The Murder Of Love) is a nice little coda that ends the first side of the album (if this was a record) which makes way for...

the crown of the collection is 'Jewelled' which I would say is the best version of the Duel/Jewel idea. It is fast, exciting and is everything it should be. A great song.
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If you have - and like - A Secret Wish, but not this then give it a go. Personally for me it is the better of the two by far.

However, the following are worth considering:

1) SOUND QUALITY - not much improvement

I've had the chance to play this on a serious bit of hifi (not mine!) and there is little difference between this version and the 1990s Warner release. There very little extra bass to be heard, but the top end is clearer (not boosted, there is audible improved definition) but it's not necessarily worth the entrance price as it is not major. I wonder if this has come from the LP cutting tapes rather than the actual mix masters as the album sounds quite bass shy.

2) BONUS TRACKS - not very interesting

This seems to be common opinion. While I don't have issue with the bonus tracks following the album (although I would have preferred an additional CD with further outtakes/remixes, etc.) there is little to be excited about.

Strength to Dream - a basic version of what appeared on A Secret Wish. No strings, no thunder and rain, a sudden end instead of the grand finale of the LP version.

p:Machinery (The Beta Wraparound) - as per the reactivated 12" I guess (Beta mix + reprise as also heard on p:Polish mix.) To be honest I have very little motivation to compare to the original 12".

The Murder of Love (Murderous Instrumental) - basic track, not a straight instrumental version of the LP mix, nowhere near as good as Loved on the main album.

Dr Mabuse (Outtake) - very similar to the LP version in structure with different mix levels, some elements mixed out, and different reverb on (some of?) the vocals, it plays out to the end like the instrumental mix and then gives just a little more.
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Generally speaking, I’m a fan of remix albums. “Wishful Thinking” however is the exception to the rule. From the opening bars of "Abuse" the CD promises much and delivers little. The deconstruction of the superb "Dr Mabuse" is the opening track and on hearing the piano bass chords and sampled strings, a feeling of excitement starts to build. You should hold that thought and welcome it because it's downhill all the way from here. Through the stripped down mix of "p:Machinery" ("Machined") and into "Laughed", virtually an extended dub mix of "Sorry For Laughing", it feels as though the boys at ZTT had far too much time on their hands. This album was obviously the result of a couple of hours worth of knob twiddling in order to cash in maximally on Propaganda's cult status at the time with least amount of effort. There is one outstanding track though; "Jewelled" is almost "Bejewelled", the rare promo remix that merges both "Jewel" and "Duel". The result is an energy filled composite, containing the screamed vocals that eventually become the sung vocals over the same raw track of "Jewel". Then it's business as usual with the promising piano intro to "Loved". Not so much "The Murder Of Love" as the mindless killing of a classic Propaganda track. This is followed by yet more bits of "Abuse", which fills the CD out nicely. Finally we end on the cacophony that is "Thought". The only positive thing to say about it is that it uses the baseline and some of the noises from the exceptionally rare single, “Diziplin”. For those of you who have only recently discovered Propaganda and want to hear more, my advice is this: if you want remixes either hunt for the original 12” singles or opt for “Outside World”, the latest ZTT offering. Alternatively, buy this for “Jewelled” alone but don’t expect “A Secret Wish” Part Two. I think the title of this album says it all really.
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