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- Publisher: DISSONANT HUM; 1 edition (22 Mar. 2012)
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- Language: English
- ASIN: B007O0Y1ZE
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The Way of Men Kindle Edition
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So why 4 stars? Because, in my opinion, he is really touching on something about the male experience. Some of the chapters in the book are genuinely very engaging. This is a thought provoking book and will, hopefully, inspire more men to examine their place in the world and how to approach the future.
Before I read the book, I read some reviews that asserted that the book had racist overtones. I would say that it takes a stretch of the imagination to call the book racist. He clearly states that a gang could unite across racial boundaries.
You don't accidentally find yourself here. There is no need to inform you about Jack Donovan or his take on things. For more on his style or writing you can go to his website and read selected pieces. You can also listen to his podcast at Start the World.
This review is to help you choose between his two main works, “The way of Men” and “Becoming a Barbarian”.
Jack Donovan is a perceptive and original thinker who writes in a terse, compact manner. He is one of those writers who writes down your own thoughts but expresses it far more eloquently. Though we probably wouldn't have come up with arguments, so precise, persuasive and insightful. He has also taken a lot of the legwork out of the common cultural conversation about masculinity and dismantles the commonly expressed counter-arguments. As you can see from the negative reviews this rarely rises above the level of knee-jerk, name calling. On reflection you may well have come to these conclusions yourself but he has saved you years of reading, drum circles and YouTube commenting.
This is strong stuff it's like eating Roquefort or rare steaks. It's uncompromising and brave. Far from an unreconstructed thug, Donovan has come out of the same educated, liberal culture as us all and finding it lacking, dissected it.
Donovan is scornful of what modern western society has become, and runs over modernities sacred cows (then reverses over them). Conversations sparked by these books will be interesting indeed, and it would be a strong, or hopeless. person who is not troubled, stirred and changed by reading his work.
Of course you should buy both books they are self published, Listen to his podcast with Greg Walsh for more on this, so he will receive most of the income from the sale. But as we are concerned with doing not talking maybe the second of the books, “Becoming a Barbarian” is the more useful. This book concerns tribalism, the place of man in a tribe, what that concerns and builds the mental equipment to do it.
“The Way of Men” hacks away the cultural accretions to lay bare the essence of men as Donovan sees them. The first half of the book deals with the four tactical virtues Strength Courage Mastery and Honour and what it means to be good at being a man.
The second half deals with historical examples, the problems of applying the tactical virtues in the modern world and the parlous state of men's affairs in the West.
I read these books, the wrong-way-around. Becoming a Barbarian is more about the application of ideas laid out in the way of men with a strong emphasis on the tribe, an honest, red meat look at tribalism, compared with “our” cultures' veneration of individualism. Donovan does well in dismantling the myth of the rugged individualist and creates a compelling and well-researched vision of tribal man.
Both Books are slim, and beautiful reflecting Donovan's strong artistic skill. Did I agree with everything he writes? No, of course not. Is he wrong? No. Not really, in nuance maybe, execution. I'm not sure about re-inventing barbarism, and I'm not sure that we can't start Western civilisation back on a path that benefits men, and us all. In my more temperate moments it seems unwise to reject the paradigm that has given the world the highest material level of existence ever known, in my less temperate moments “starting the world seems preferable to slowly going extinct.. These are powerful books, with ideas you will apply to your live. They will make you want to be better, stronger. It's a timely piece too on the edge of the counter attack.
Will it make you a good man?, maybe. Will it make you good at being a man? Yes apply it.
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