Well Sigmund aka Stig, I do think there is some very fertile ground to explore here psychoanalytically speaking - multiple personalities, delusional, abusive, refusal to face facts, paranoia..... I think he needs help poor chap. It kind of reminds me of those auditioning for X Factor type programmes who are utterly convinced, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, that they can sing.
Yes its gone and so have some of the disgusting comments made by our beloved and erudite author with the choice vocabulary aka Derek Hall on this thread. A few nasty ones left but assume they will get around to them later.
Just got the following reply from Amazon following my complaint about last night's abuse
Thank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk.
I can confirm that we are looking into this issue as a matter of urgency.
We do endevour to remove any abusive or threatening comments, and are monitoring the reviews and of course the discussion forum.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.
James Customer Service Amazon.co.uk
In other words, the usual procrastination and a failure to respond to my request that they remove this book from their lists. Don't they realise the damage that this is causing to their reputation? I find it incredible that they can't get it round their corporate heads that Tino/Georgio/Brendan are taking them for a very long ride
What I don't understand is why Amazon keep allowing people who have made really offensive and obscene comments to keep posting. Yes, they delete their posts but then they pop up again under the same id (Derek Hall being one) with more filth. Of course its obviously too easy to create a new name but Bookworm and Derek and various others have been repeat offenders. I think that just one obscene and threatening comment should be enough for Amazon to ban them altogether. Trouble is of course they would then re-emerge as someone else and we'd have to start all over again..... Oh how tiring!
I feel the same way CJ. Their reviews are allowed to stand, they are able to recommend the book elsewhere on the site, they are able to submit other reviews and they are allowed to continue to post here. And that's all in spite of this:
"As you can imagine, 'The Fates' is being very closely monitored at this point in time.
We have removed the offending comments, and any person making threatening or abusive comment will be removed from our website."
Sadly one can only come to the conclusion that it is the length of time it takes Amazon to sort this out that makes doing it so worthwhile to the perpetrators and will ensure it is repeated in the future This is what I received yesterday
''Thank you for writing to Amazon.co.uk. We appreciate the effort you have made in writing a review of this item and we deeply regret that the report abuse button was used to remove a valid review.
The report abuse button is a necessary feature of our website. Unfortunately in this instance it has been misused. At this time we are unable to protect individual customer reviews however we are constantly looking at ways to increase the functionality of our website and this issue may be dealt with in the future. I have notified the relevant department that this is a sight feature we should look at improving.'' and ''We would like to thank you for your participation in Amazon.co.uk customer reviews. Please allow me to apologise for any frustration this matter has caused you.
Considering your review was previously agreed by us to be within our guidelines, we willl be happy to post it up again should you re- submit it.
Alternatively, if you provide us with the review title, we could find the review which has already been taken down and put it back up.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.''
Well it's12.38pm now so to say I'm not very impressed would be an understatement.
Surprisingly it's an earlier version of my review that's back up, from almost 2 weeks ago, and one that is even more critical of the book! I assume it had been marked as abusive by our friend, been reviewed by Amazon and has just now re-appeared. Hopefully, it will stay put this time.
Good to see that it's just the abusive comments that are being removed - I was concerned that the thread would disappear in its entirety (as with previous ones) but hopefully Amazon are now being more selective. Presumably it was our friend's intention to have this discussion removed by flooding it with abuse, as it sheds too much light on his previous activities.
Yes Flubu,for anyone reading through and following up the info. it paints a pretty clear picture.and CJ you're right ,I think it's a tactic that's served him well in the past and isn't working so well here.
Hey, just a thought - maybe that wasn't an earthquake that woke us all up last night, maybe it was actually Brandon Devereux and all his Shepherds "striking down upon us with great vengeance and furious anger".
I thought I would see what had been happening with the discussions here. I can't believe that the various alter egos of Tino and his "numerous" fans are persisting in their tactics. I admire you all for your persistence in digging out the truth of what's going on.
The funny thing is that this has spurred me on to ensure that I now give brutally honest reviews for anything that I purchase here whether I like it or not. So I think that one of the aims of the abuse has woefully backfired.
Or the faint sound of an almighty tantrum far away in America Boof I've had a reply from James in cs in answer to an extremely cross e-mail I sent earlier today.Apparently the reason reviews take such a long time to go up ,(or back up,)here is that all reviews submitted to this forum are being checked through specially.Presumably for plagiarism,identity fraud,threats,abuse etc.etc.Must be a full time job
Why have Amazon deleted the posts from Deborah and myself? Only reason I can think of is that we both included addresses for people to write to.
I also posted my latest email to Amazon, so here it is again:
I'm sorry James, but that wasn't my question. You all know as well as I do that all these abusive and threateningcomments and fake reviews are being submitted by the author of this book, Tino Georgiou (or one of his other pseudonyms). His book has been removed from other Amazon sites and his page has been deleted fro0m Wikipedia because he has copied his biography from another author.
This man is a con man who has been conducting a very nasty marketing campaign designed to fool people into buying his appaling book and threatening and abusing anyone who dares to point this out. Moreover, he is using your company as his tool to carry out this campaign and making a mockery of your Customer Review system.
Why is it, therefore, that in these circumstances, you are still offering the book for sale?