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Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel (PC DVD)
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- Platform: Windows 7 / Vista
- PEGI Rating: Ages 3 and Over
- Media: Personal Computers
- Item Quantity: 1
mad catz CES432110002/06/1 - Saitek Cessna Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel
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In real-life, the trim control either moves a trim-tab - akin to a little elevator on the elevator (e.g. Cessna 17x series) - or sometimes adjusts a spring that sets the neutral point of the yoke or joystick (e.g. Piper Tomahawk). Either way, there's lots of mechanics involved and as a result trim tabs are generally quite stiff - something that this tab completely fails to replicate. They're also much bigger.
Another feature of trim tabs is that they have a neutral setting. Before take off, part of the pre-flight checks is to look at the trim indicator and check that it's at the neutral point because you really don't want to take off in an out-of-trim condition. This is something else that this tab neglects to replicate, though admittedly you can look at the view on the computer screen.
On the plus side, the unit feels solidly built, and compared to semi-pro equipment the Saitek equipment is reasonably priced.
This unit took an inordinate amount of time to arrive - weeks. I also have qualms about Amazon's tax and employment policies and will try not to order from them again until these issues are sorted.
Couple of things to be aware of though - one, the advertising and even the box of the wheel states there are "9 turns of revolution". Apart from not really making much sense as a sentence, it implies that this wheel has end stops like on the real unit. This is not true - the wheel will spin endlessly in both directions and not stop, and all it does is output an analogue up or down signal. There is no "absolute" setting as in say a throttle lever, the sim will reset each time.
A way to show what I mean: If you have a throttle, set it 3/4 of the way up and THEN go into Windows USB control config. You will see that windows knows its set at 3/4 right off the bat. With the trim wheel, every time you open the config it will be set to the midpoint. You cannot actually calibrate it as it does not have endpoints.
A second thing to be aware of is that these units are much smaller than they appear in the photos, perhaps due to lack of scale, however I don't think you would really want them any bigger.
I really like how you can mount one of these to an existing throttle bracket, putting two items on one mount. The brackets are also a cool design that makes getting a screwdriver in the back (some self assembly is required) a breeze.
A number of reviewers complained about problem with the elevator trim when exiting auto-pilot - that the trim would jump to the last trim wheel setting from the one set by the auto-pilot. I never experienced this problem. This is not to say that they were wrong. It may depend on how the player uses the auto-pilot and the trim wheel. I always engage the auto-pilot and link it to the GPS shortly after I take off. I only use the trim wheel when I land and with the auto-pilot disengaged.
Though this look like real Cessna trim, it's feel is bit plasticky and lot lighter then real stuff.
Unlike other Saitek controls it connects very late (after turning wheels for few time)
Functionality wise it works as it should be, except few frustrating glitches that is mentioned by other reviewer as well, Sometimes it stops working at transition stages and you need to turn few turns before your simulator(FSX) responds to it and it jumps to some other setting, during flight this issue cause frustrating experience especially during landing. There may be some solution or workaround for this, so anybody knows it please share it here.
I also experience a peculiar problem in Piper Cub (may be FSX bug but using other buttons work fine) at certain point (+4.5 or greater) it stops changing trim and no mater how many turns you do it does not increase the trim.
Most Recent Customer Reviews
Excellent product. Worked a dream. Really makes it easier to trim level without having to use a switch on the yoke. Very easy to install and setup in xplanePublished 29 days ago by Alan Hughes
Very jerky movement of control wheel with a dead spot in the middle. poorly made. I expected much better for something of this price. AVOID.Published 2 months ago by Captain Jeremy
As flight simmer i found this item useless. I have no comment about the trim wheel used with Saitek drivers, but you can't use this item with FSUIPC and expect it to work even... Read morePublished 6 months ago by Amazon Customer
Works fine in FSX, operates slightly different with different aircraft, i.e. can be course or fine movements required depending on the aircraft type.Published 17 months ago by Iandwhite
Difficult to programme, removed it in the end in favour of the trim wheel built into the Saitek multi panel. It may just be my lack of experience, but it is gathering dust now.Published 19 months ago by B.Crawley