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Post-Gay? Post-Christian?: Anatomy of a Cultural and Faith Identity Crisis (Tales from the Throne) Paperback – 15 Jan 2011

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  • Paperback: 296 pages
  • Publisher: Cedar House Publishers (15 Jan. 2011)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0967628962
  • ISBN-13: 978-0967628967
  • Product Dimensions: 21.6 x 14.1 x 1.8 cm
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Provacative Discussion of Gay Issues in the Church Community 21 April 2011
By Darrell - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
Debbie Thurman has courageously stepped out into the muddy and dangerous waters of gay issues and Christian theology. In doing so, she accomplishes two important things. First, she uses a wealth of information to form an objective picture of the current state of American gay politics and Church politics. Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, she offers an intriguing solution for the Church. She challenges fundamentalist Christians to step up to the plate and openly discuss the "love that dares not speak its name,"--for the sake of those whose lives are neither 100% gay, nor 100% straight, and who secretly suffer in a world where gay politicians and hostile, judgmental Christians routinely offer only black-and-white life solutions. Thurman clearly "outs" the militant gay politicians and the most judgmental of Christian fundamentalists, and shows how their careless--but willful--ignorance and hostility toward bisexuals and those with nuanced sexual natures is clearly hurting a great number of people and forcing them into the shadows, by having to choose between being a "Christian" or being "gay." As the pages unfold, we also find that one of the main themes of her book becomes increasingly clear: to get Christians to conduct painful self-analysis and to seek God's help in changing attitudes that are neither loving nor compassionate, and to be willing to accept some ambiguity in the Christian world. She also suggests that those in the gay community who criticize people for choosing to alter their own sexual orientation toward heterosexuality, reveal a complete lack of understanding of the breadth of human sexuality and disrespect for each and every person's claim to existential liberty, in whatever form it may take. Thurman's book is courageous because she takes a stand that threatens the old ideologies of two very loud and opposing groups in today's culture: puritanical Christian fundamentalists and militant gay politicians. She strikes a tone of understanding that, unfortunately, will probably fall on a lot of deaf ears. Yet, if you listen, she carries a message that is actually ahead of its time and deserves to be both heard and respected.
1 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Informative 21 Aug. 2011
By R. M. Lindevaldsen - Published on Amazon.com
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I couldn't put the book down. Even though I've been directly involved in various cultural battles concerning same-sex attractions, I learned so much from this book. I think the review that called it a treatise hits the nail on the head; it's a must have for your library if you want to know more about what took place and is taking place in this country on the issue of "gay" rights.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Book 17 May 2013
By Kim D - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
Stories of growth, development, and change can be extremely interesting. This book gives us insight into a woman's journey as she struggles with her sexual identity and slides into the world of homosexuality.

This book is full of factual information and statistics. The author took the time to give the readers a lot of background information and it was very informative. I loved how this book flowed. It is not dry. It is not something you would have to trudge through. The author clearly interjected her humanity and allowed herself to be vulnerable with the readers. I honestly think that the readers will find themselves thoroughly enjoying it. I am amazed that the author can fit so much into such a small book. The format is easy to read and follow. It is broken up so your eyes can easily absorb it all. I read it in one sitting.

I should probably mention that I do not review books on a professional level nor am I an expert in the field of homosexuality. I fall in the category of having a family member who is living a gay lifestyle. I've read many books on the market and this one has opened up my eyes to a lot of things and helped me to understand the complexities of the homosexual world. I am also a Christian who is desperately trying to understand more about the subject from a Godly perspective.

Debbie is living proof that there is hope through Jesus Christ. She offers firsthand insight and provides resources for those seeking a way out. Debbie shares the pain of her choices and she exposes the deceptions behind the homosexual lifestyle and unmasks the myths gay activist have used to silence the church. This book will challenge readers to know that God's Word brings victory over even the most seductive lures of darkness. It gives hope for the ones struggling with homosexuality and their families, and challenges the church to reach out with the love of Jesus Christ, expressed through concerned and caring Christians.

I highly recommend this book for those who are struggling with their sexual identity or for those who have loved ones living in the homosexual lifestyle.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars the truth about ex-gays 2 May 2011
By writerJerome - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
A sincere book by a nice lady who means well. I have had several conversations with her about this book. She believes she must continue her life married to a man based upon what she has been told the bible says. She shares her personal experiences and quotes from those who agree, but what is most interesting in reading this book is what happened right after it came out. The most prominent "ex-gay" in the world, Alan Chambers, who wrote a jacket cover bit of praise for this book, admitted "99.9% of those seeking change from homosexual to heterosexual do not experience it." That is very significant coming from the long-time leader of the largest ex-gay ministry in the world, Exodus International. His words were similar to those of John Smid, the long-time leader of the oldest ex-gay ministry, Love in Action. Even though that group had a full-time facility that LGBT people could live in for up to a year at a time, Smid admitted he knew of not one person who had changed from homosexual to heterosexual. He left his wife and is now partnered. Since then other key leaders have come forward with the same message and every major evangelical ex-gay ministry in the free world that had decades of experience has shut down forever - from the US and Canada to Europe to Australia. And the Catholic church's ministries to gays have quietly conceded that a person cannot change his or her sexual orientation, but it demands that LGBT people live celibate forever. Thurman's arguments in the book have been shown to be false, not by the liberal media, but by the very conservative Christian groups dedicated to changing homosexuals into heterosexuals.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Couldn't get past poor writing style 24 May 2012
By HJL - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Paperback
I purchased this book after attending a lecture given by the author. Unfortunately, she is a better speaker than writer. I wish I had not wasted my money purchasing it. The reviewer who gave the book one star makes excellent points about the downfalls of self-publishing, so I will not go into that. This book has good thoughts and ideas, but is poorly written. I could not track with what the author was saying because she jumped from topic to topic. There are several major spelling, grammatical, and typographical errors throughout. She also uses inflammatory language and terms (of the type typically heard from Limbaugh or Hannity), making it even more difficult to discern what was her underlying agenda for writing the book.

Again, the ideas are there, and individual paragraphs and sections are good, but the book lacks an overall cohesiveness.
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