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List of Personnel of the Irish Defence Forces Dismissed for Desertion During the Second World War Paperback – 2 Jun. 2011
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It may not be widely known but a large number of Irish soldiers deserted their own army during WWII (Eire remained neutral) and crossed the sea to join the British army. Once the war was over these men were officially dismissed the service and their names published in this confidential document. The formal title of the document is "List of personnel of the Defence Forces dismissed for desertion in time of National Emergency pursuant to the terms of Emergency Powers (No 362) Order 1945 (S.R. & O. 1945 No 198) or Section 13 of the Defence Forces (Temporary Provisions) Act, 1946 (No 7/1946)." In it are listed, in alphabetical order, some 5,000 or more names with Army No, last recorded address, date of birth, declared occupation prior to enlistment in Defence Forces, and date of dismissal from Defence Forces. In the latter case the date is amost invariably 8 August 1945. This document was circulated to all civil service departments and state run services, e.g post office, health service, state owned bus , rail, air and shipping companies etc. This was obviously intended to bar them from any form of government employment. It is a fascinating document and one which I have never been aware of before. It would be interesting, with the Naval and Military Press CD of Soldiers Died in WWII, to see how many of them were kiled or died in the war. The number of desertions is surprisingly large for a small army, but it must be an indication of the strength of feeling at the time.
- Print length136 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherNaval & Military Press
- Publication date2 Jun. 2011
- Dimensions18.9 x 0.74 x 24.61 cm
- ISBN-101845748883
- ISBN-13978-1845748883
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- Publisher : Naval & Military Press; First published in 1945. edition (2 Jun. 2011)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 136 pages
- ISBN-10 : 1845748883
- ISBN-13 : 978-1845748883
- Dimensions : 18.9 x 0.74 x 24.61 cm
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My father was not listed so slightly disappointed but served its purpose. It means little except for reference purposes but interesting all the same.
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This is a well reproduced list of names but lacks a present day introducation which if included would make a good book an excellent one. Of great use to family tree buffs but of very little value to the average military history reader
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A secret list of 5,000 Irish soldiers dismissed for deserting and joining the British Forces duirng the Second World War.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 28 October 2010
It may not be widely known but a large number of Irish soldiers deserted their own army during WWII (Eire remained neutral) and crossed the sea to join the British army. Once the war was over these men were officially dismissed the service and their names published in this confidential document. The formal title of the document is "List of personnel of the Defence Forces dismissed for desertion in time of National Emergency pursuant to the terms of Emergency Powers (No 362) Order 1945 (S.R. & O. 1945 No 198) or Section 13 of the Defence Forces (Temporary Provisions) Act, 1946 (No 7/1946)." In it are listed, in alphabetical order, some 5,000 or more names with Army No, last recorded address, date of birth, declared occupation prior to enlistment in Defence Forces, and date of dismissal from Defence Forces. In the latter case the date is amost invariably 8 August 1945. This document was circulated to all civil service departments and state run services, e.g post office, health service, state owned bus , rail, air and shipping companies etc. This was obviously intended to bar them from any form of government employment. It is a fascinating document and one which I have never been aware of before.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 28 July 2011
This is a fascinating document. It contains 4,987 names, addresses, dates of birth, and other personal information, of the men who deserted from the Irish Defence Force during WW2, to join the British armed forces. It was the basic research tool for my book, Spitting On A Soldier's Grave.
Spitting on a Soldier's Grave: Court Martialed After Death, the Story of the Forgotten Irish and British Soldiers
I interviewed some of the men on this List. Though what most people will be unaware of is that many of the men on this List of Personnel... died fighting to defeat Nazism, long before they were added to this document. The List is a fascinating research tool, which I've now digitised.
I interviewed some of the men on this List. Though what most people will be unaware of is that many of the men on this List of Personnel... died fighting to defeat Nazism, long before they were added to this document. The List is a fascinating research tool, which I've now digitised.
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