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  • Audio CD (10 Sept. 2012)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Original recording remastered
  • Label: Union Square Music Limited
  • ASIN: B008MWFEOA
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A Zang Tuum Tumb compact compilation containing noise-shots from the records A Secret Wish, Wishful Thinking, Duel, Do Well, P:Machinery, the Nine Lives of Dr Mabuse and Propaganda s studio sessions during the years spent taping at Sarm Studios, 1983 to 1986.... In other words: The best of the highly influential Propaganda on ZTT; classics and rarities from a band once described as 'Abba from hell', although they are much more interesting than that rather glib tag implies. They were a Düsseldorf band, and with hindsight you can see them as the halfway point between the city s most famous sons, Kraftwerk, and the common European language of techno-pop that flourished in Ralf and Florian s wake. Ralf Dörper, a bank employee, music writer and member of Düsseldorf industrial-electronic band Die Krupps, founded Propaganda with part-time DJ Andreas Thein and jeweller-goldsmith Susanne Freytag. None was a musician in the conventional sense but they made a demo version of Discipline by Throbbing Gristle which found its way to NME writer Paul Morley (then in the process of setting up ZTT with Trevor Horn and Jill Sinclair),who signed them. Horn discovered he had a great facility with Propaganda s mixture of beautiful and sinister, but by 1984 Frankie Goes To Hollywood were consuming all of his time. It was therefore decided that Propaganda (now expanded to include Michael Mertens and Claudia Brücken) would be produced by Horn s engineer Steve Lipson and with Lipson at the controls A Secret Wish became perhaps ZTT s best-realised album and one that has grown in stature ever since. 'I loved that album,' says Horn. 'And a lot of other people loved it too. ' Quincy Jones called Horn, wanting to license A Secret Wish for America. Horn kept him on the phone for an hour talking about Jones s work with Frank Sinatra. And if you listen to Michael Jackson around that time, Horn says, He started to sound a lot like Propaganda. A lot of industrial sounds...

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This is the third Salvo release of Propaganda material, and at an incredibly good price it boasts nine previously unreleased tracks as well as a handful that have never made it to CD before. Titled as a 'compact introduction', it does that job very well as it mixes cuts from 'A Secret WIsh', 'Wishful Thinking' and the cassingle 'Do Well' along with rare 12" and 7" mixes, but for the fans this will be the opportunity to get closer to completion in collecting all of the enormous ZTT archive of this fantastic band's music from those brief years in the 80s.

The beautiful cover of Nico and Velvet Underground's 'Femme Fatale', originally the b-side to the Dr. Mabuse single, finally makes it onto CD in three different versions - the original mix, an instrumental, and an accapella outtake. Brucken's voice is perfect for this as she takes the tender and the tough moments easily in her stride. Probably Propaganda's most romantic recording.

More mixes of 'Mabuse' see the light of day including the video mix and the ninth life 12" mixes which most of us have wanted for a very long time. Great to hear these in crisp clarity on CD at last!

"Duel' is revealed as 'thirds' which is actually the 'Top of the Pops' mix which was used for their only appearance on that show, and it's basically a shortened and slightly remixed cut of the album version. But a nice cut to have nevertheless.

The majestic sturm und drang of 'P-machinery' is in its big beta form, but with the addition of a short but beguiling alpha mix which hints at an intriguing new direction the track could have explored. Perhaps there is more of this in the vaults and yet to come.

The CD is well sequenced and overall is a brilliant collection of material from one of the best bands of the 80s.
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For the record, I am a HUGE fan of Propaganda - they were one of the key groups of the 80s and their sole album (in the classic incarnation of Claudia Brucken, Suzanne Freytag, Ralf Dorper & Michael Mertens) "A Secret Wish" is one of the best albums ever in my opinion, not just in the synthpop genre. Seeing the core of the band reunited at Claudia's Scala gig last year (preserved on the excellent DVD/CD package "This Happened") was a massive thrill.

This collection of oddments & rareties, many on CD for the first time, is welcome. Someone commented on this review soon after I posted it and asked how different the tracks are from whats been released previously - I've added a track by track postcript to the review therefore. However, if someone new to Propaganda REALLY wanted to get to know the group, to understand why "A Secret Wish" is so highly regarded, I would point them directly to the double CD 25th remaster of that album, which costs as much to buy on Amazon (with supersaver delivery) as a digital download of this collection. For a start, you will get the original vinyl edition version of the masterly Dream Within A Dream on that CD (always my favourite version with that howling guitar break in the middle), as well as the longer original CD release version which is included here on "Noise and Girls..". And you'll discover other wonders such as "The Murder of Love" and their cover of Josef K's Sorry for Laughing.

What we get on "Noise and Girls.." is material distilled essentially from Propaganda's three singles, Dr Mabuse, Duel (and it's dark twin Jewel), and P:machinery. Lots of good things for the enthusiast, as the first reviewer of this album has pointed out.
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After the "Sex Mix" debacle I was a wee bit worried about the sound quality of this Salvo/ZTT release, but all tracks seem to have their stereo imagery present and correct! Whilst Claudia's "Combined" worked well as an album, this compilation is better for the completist as the same tracks are revisited regularly (and necessarily).

Many highlights, though some of the 'unreleased' snippets sound like they are just that, rather than something truly exclusive and breath-taking. However it holds together well and the nuances of some of the mixes are great to hear on CD at last.

As per some other reviewers, a lack of liner commentary was a slight surprise, but the sound quality and strength of the original material (some of which is genuinely unreleased on CD) make this a worthwhile addition to any Prop/CB/ZTT collector.
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Another introduction/best of/previously unreleased Propaganda compilation...

There is no doubt that the brilliant Propaganda made an important mark in the history of music, albeit very briefly in 1984/85. It is worth mentioning that the band recorded a total of 9 songs of which 2 were cover version and one a poem set to music.

While I must admit to feeling used (again) by ZTT and their endless marketing strategies (do you want to know how many versions of singles and albums I have of the forementioned 9 songs? No, well neither do I) - the Product sounds better than ever: The heavy basslines and synthesizer washes clouded in cathedral reverb sound as modern and fresh as they did when first released, and makes for the most powerful dark pop since....well since the last Propaganda re-release!

They also performed Throbbing Gristle's "Disclipline" which made an appearance on Propaganda's first appearance on The Tube. The bassline later cropped up on the remix album "Wishful Thinking" (and in fact surfaced on "M: The Secret Tapes Of Dr Mabuse", a limited print run CD issued privately by Andreas Thein, about the early days of Propaganda. It includes also some early versions of "Dr. Mabuse") - but there may well be a good reason for omitting it here.

Good to finally see "Femme Fatale" being included but for "Discipline"? Well, don't worry - there will be another compilation in a couple of years' time...
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