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Joel Spolsky is a globally recognized expert on the software development process. His web site Joel on Software (www.joelonsoftware.com) is popular with software developers around the world and has been translated into over 30 languages. As the founder of Fog Creek Software in New York City, he created FogBugz, a popular project management system for software teams. Joel has worked at Microsoft, where he designed VBA as a member of the Excel team, and at Juno Online Services, developing an Internet client used by millions. He has written two books: User Interface Design for Programmers (Apress, 2001) and Joel on Software (Apress, 2004). Joel holds a bachelor's of science degree from Yale in computer science. Before college, he served in the Israeli Defense Forces as a paratrooper, and he was one of the founders of Kibbutz Hanaton.


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I enjoyed the first Joel on Software book when I read it 18 months ago. Reading the 2nd book was quite heavy on the deja vu but enjoyable none the less.

If you haven't read the first book then rate this as 4 stars. If you have read the first book I would give this 2 stars.

I think the best thing to do is buy one of the books and borrow the other.
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I've found his writing in the past to be interesting and thought provoking: I don't necessarily agree with all of what he says but it's always worth reading. I was well aware that, in common with all his previous books, this would be a dead-tree version of Joel's blog and various articles he's published on his web site

However what I didn't expect was that
- 40% would be a re-print of his immediately previous book, "Smart and gets things done",
- 20% self advertising or advertising for his company (the fact he's setup and runs a successful boutique web business adds to his credibility but outright repeated advertising in a paid-for book isn't acceptable).
- 20% newbies economic theory (hey Joel if I wanted an lesson in economics I don't think I'd buy one from you).

And only 10% is actually new and pertinent content.

A huge disappointment.
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As others have said, this is the printed version of Joel's blog posts from his website at joelonsoftware.com. Unlike one other reviewer I do not think it fair to rate a compilation of personal blog posts poorly based on the fact that some of the material was also used in other books and that the author chose to write about the business he was building at the time. It's a little disjoint at times, of course, but that's the nature of a collection of personal blog posts. They're designed to be quick to read and easy to digest, so complaints about "lessons on economics" don't really hold water - the book is full of high-level but relatively nuanced discussions on a number of subjects. It is what it is. If you like the author's writing style, buy the book. If you would prefer not to pay (or you want to sample some (or even all) of the content) you can read it online.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Oh no more Joel. 6 Oct. 2008
By Bas Vodde - Published on Amazon.com
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"More Joel on Software" is exactly what it says. It's a follow-up on "Joel on Software", a collection of blog posts from Joel Spolskys well-known blog "Joel on Software". I thoroughly enjoyed the first collection of Joels posts and thus was looking forward to this. And... I was disappointed. It IS good, Joel is an excellent and funny author and his posts are interesting, but... it was not as good as the first collection of posts :) Is he running out of ideas? We'll see in "Even More Joel on Software" which ought to be ready in four years...

Slight disappointment, but still enjoyed Joels latest collection of posts. Let me point out a few of his posts to give an idea what he covers.

The first post "My First BillG review" was a great story in which Joel tells his experience with Bill Gates reviewing his spec for MS Excel (many years ago) and how Bill reacted to the spec and what impression it led to him. It's a nice post and gives an insight to the working of MS during that time.

"The Perils of JavaSchools" criticized the universities that uses Java as main languages for teaching computer science. Joel argues that developers do not learn "the hard parts" about programming when using a language like Java.

In "Why are the MS Office File Formats So Complicated" Joel takes a look at the insanely large file format spec for Office files and explains why they became the way they are. Then he gives some advise on what to do when you want to read Office files (not write it yourself)

In "Hitting the High Notes", Joel explores the productivity difference between developers from many different perspectives and argues that great developers are absolutely essential for great products. This was his main idea behind setting up his own business. He looks at productivity and quality from different perspectives.

All in all, More Joel contains 300 pages with Joel blog posts. It's worth reading and I enjoyed it a lot. Joel has an "interesting perspective" on certain topics. Worth reading, but if you haven't read "Joel on Software" then I'd recommend to read that first.
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book for Software Engineers 6 Dec. 2011
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As soon as I joined my MS program in UAB, one of my senior student recommended this series of Joel to me. I read the first and the second one with passion. Lot of information and I like most of them. One of the highlights I remember from this book is Part 1 that explains Managing people. I am following his recommendations for getting the right resource to do the job. And it is hard to get the right people always.

Also he describes about the 3 management methods, which shed some light for me in managing my team.

The one main thing I want to talk about Joel is his ease of expression. While reading the books that he wrote, I never felt bored.

Looking for more works from you Joel.

Thank you
4.0 out of 5 stars More valuable insight from Joel Spolsky 12 Jun. 2011
By Robert H. Stine Jr. - Published on Amazon.com
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Like its predecessor, "More Joel on Software", by Joel Spolsky, is a collection of essays that had been published in the "Joel on Software" blog. The quality of these essays is more uneven than in the first book, but there are nonetheless some true gems. In particular, Joel's essay that details a method for prioritizing candidate features for a new software release is by itself worth the price of the book. I also enjoyed his essay on the differences between custom software, consultant-ware, and shrink-wrap software, in part because it validated my opinion that working on shrink-wrap software is more demanding, more fun, and potentially more lucrative that any other software gigs.
5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars 31 Mar. 2017
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great read...
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5.0 out of 5 stars Worth Rereading 7 Aug. 2008
By William B. Swift - Published on Amazon.com
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Since I've been reading joelonsoftware for the past two years, a lot of this was already familiar to me, but it was well worth rereading. Some of the essays were old enough and I hadn't come by links to them so they were new to me, but not many. Most of the first part Managing People was already published in Joel's Smart and Gets Things Done.

Anyone even considering working on shrink-wrap software, especially in a small company, should read this book. (Anyone considering consultingware should especially read the last chapter; it will convince you not to, unless you are a masochist.)
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