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  • Audio CD (15 Mar. 2010)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Sunday Best
  • ASIN: B0034PWIFS
  • Other Editions: Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (24 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 72,965 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
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BBC Review

To answer the question on the lips of the casual fans first, there is nothing on The Logic of Chance quite as cutting and hilarious as Thou Shalt Always Kill. Back in 2007 that celebration of independent pop-cultural thought became an anthem and was a highlight of Angles, the Essex duo’s underrated debut album.

On The Logic of Chance producer dan le sac and MC Scroobius Pip return with tunes which occasionally lack the immediacy of earlier tracks. But they retain the thought and vitality which characterised numbers like Development, the Angles effort which saw Pip rap the periodic table.

Sick Tonight sees Pip (aka David Meads) spit out his speediest rhymes while sac (aka Daniel Stephens) provides drum‘n’bass beats and paranoid bleeps for a frantic and malevolent start. Then, Five Minutes is a sad, unexpectedly polyrhythmic but quiet tale of domestic violence and a respectable partner to Magician’s Assistant, the harrowing Angles song about self-harm.

Great Britain is perhaps the biggest tune on this sophomore effort. Pip is at his proselytising best, but not dogmatic or boring. Lyrics about knife crime could come across as embarrassing in lesser hands, but Pip honed his skills on the spoken-word scene pre-sac and knows his way around a syllable or three.

Lead single Get Better is the most commercial moment and one which celebrates the positives of youth, or at least suggests things can be improved from kids confusing “love at first sight with lust at first light”.

It’s not all serious, beard-stroking stuff: the hirsute Pip does rhyme about his facial topiary in the amusing suburban transport lament of Last Train Home, and even references Amy Winehouse’s Rehab. Cauliflower is another bright moment with the whimsical tones of female US singer KiD A providing a pleasing counterpoint to the rhymes, while The Beat is refreshingly throwaway hooligan house. As Pip says, “This ain’t about your brain, it’s all about your feet.”

Although Pip and sac make music which is far from esoteric it’s still a little too abrasive for mainstream pop fans. It’s a shame because there’s little question the pair deserve a bigger audience and have proven again on The Logic of Chance that intelligence and fun in UK hip hop don’t have to be mutually exclusive. --Lou Thomas

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Following up from the epic Angles, Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip have once again delivered an album of quality tunes supported by lyrics second to none. As UK hip-hop spirals further downwards into generic irrelevance and meaningless ego, Scroobius Pip's lyrics shine out as the one beacon of hope. If you want hip-hop that actually has something worthwhile to say and breaks the Daily Mail sterotypes of modern youth culture, then you should consider this album is an essential purchase.
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First of all, my advice to you would be to just buy it - even if you've never heard of them. The advice and sheer genius anyone can gain from this album is completely off the scale. Get Better NEEDS to be played, everywhere. Scroobius Pip is such a comfort for me, because he sees the UK exactly as I do. We need to get people educated! I could sit here and ramble about what I want to do with England, but instead I will strongly advise you to buy it. The collaborations with Kid Carpet and kiD A are so beautiful. Perfect lyrics. Flawless beats. Unbeatable message. These guys really have it all; they have the passion that so many other generic bands lack. Such great people. Even my mum said he should be prime minister!
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The second album of the towering Dan Le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip collaboration sees a more polished and low key sound emerging from the hard drives of DSL whilst Pip seems slightly cheesed off at the state of the UK. Uh oh!

Whilst, on first listen this seems a little less catchy than the paradigm shift first album, Angles, on repeated listens it becomes clear that the best double act since Laurel and Hardy are maturing both in musicality and lyrics. Pip vehemently spits out lyrics in which he decries the state of UK politics and the sad lack of monogamy shown by the younger generation amongst other things that clearly 'get his goat.'

DSL tweaks and grinds some low key yet very effective counterpoint sounds to the missives and diatribes of SP, a very effective and heady combination. Certainly induces more thought and debate than listen to 99% of hip hop that is churned out on a production line nowadays and offers little more than love letters to b****es, money and easy living.

For this, the duo should be commended in the strongest possible terms, they have exploded the traditional casing of hip hop and taken it in a new direction. The derivative producers across the pond should sit up and take note.

Essential.
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In this and Repent Replenish and Repeat, a wide range of topics are covered. I really like both CDs and I think my husband is already sick of hearing them in the car. I like the tone and generally positive direction of the lyrics, especially in Get Better. its not all happy clappy but when so much music is about who did who wrong, or who can get something over on who, this is more realistically positive.
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After seeing these live, and being blown away by the music, the lyrics and the stage presence of them. I grabbed a copy of their debut `Angels' and was suitably stunned!!

Recently bought `The Logic Of Chance' and was again blown away by this complex, intelligent and musically incredible album.

Opener `Sick Tonight' takes me back to `Roni Size' fast hip/hop electronic beats and sharp lyrics, grabs you and shakes you to attention. `Four Minutes' is a slower but no less intense affair about a broken relationship and it's resulting end. `Cauliflower' is track that it took a while for me to get into, but once it took hold it really does not let go. Great mix of rapper Pip spitting lyrics leading to a chorus featuring a female singer pseudonym Kid A. Fantastically catchy track. `Great Britain' is one of my two favourite tracks on the album, fast beats, and witty intelligent lyrics using social commentary and anti current government policy opinions. Dan le sac Vs Scroobius Pip are to music, what Mark Thomas is to comedy. Not sure if that is too much of an opinion or not, but they have found a way to open peoples mind's to wanting to know more about subjects which people are often scared of learning more about. `Get Better' is the perfect lifter after this as to how we solve some of our social problems. I find this inspiring and uplifting through the music and the lyrics and this is my stand out track of not just this album but of any album released in the last 10 years.

Other stand out tracks for me include `Stake a Claim' more catchy beats, intelligent lyrics and a chorus as infectious as any you will ever hear, that you could imagine a 50,000 strong crowd jumping up and down and singing at the tops of their voices.
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okay, let me start by saying I was a massive fan of the first album (5 stars). For me every song had something raw, passionate and honnest about it. Pips lyrics were spot on and Le Sac complimented him perfectly with cleaver but humbles beats.

However this effort sees le sac turn up the volume and throw out the subtlty. In comes the noise influenced by electronica and Drum and Base. And I like it!! However, Pips voice and importantly, his lyrics, sometimes gets lost amongst the flair and barrage of ideas comming from le sac. This chaotic and beat filled approach works really well on some songs, the single 'sick tonight' and 'get better' but dont work so well on others.

That said I played the cd on my way to work every day last week and it is begining to grow on me. In another week maybe 4 stars. Its good, better than most angst rap out there (boom boom)but honnestly I would think about investing in Scroobius Pips, No comercial Breaks instead.
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