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Lament of the Dead: Psychology After Jung's Red Book Hardcover – 27 Sep 2013

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  • Hardcover: 256 pages
  • Publisher: W. W. Norton & Company; 1 edition (27 Sept. 2013)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0393088944
  • ISBN-13: 978-0393088946
  • Product Dimensions: 15 x 2.5 x 21.8 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
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This series of transcribed conversations between two eminent scholars provides nuanced and provocative context for Carl Jung s Red Book and its influence on contemporary thinking . A brilliant collection, evocative of all that is wonderful and strange about Jung s Red Book and about the human psyche itself. "

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James Hillman (1926 - 2011) was the author of many influential books. Sonu Shamdasani is the author of C.G. Jung: A Biography in Books (ISBN 978 0 393 07367 6). Also available: The Red Book (ISBN 978 0 393 06567 1) and The Red Book Reader's Edition (ISBN 978 0 393 08908 0).


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Join two remarkable men in the psychological thriller of the century as they explore the mystery of Jung's Red Book and its meaning for psychology (whatever the hell that is!).

Shamdasani is the editor and leading historian of the Red Book and Hillman, it emerges, is the unwitting exponent of its legacy (so much so Shandasani had presumed Hillman must have read one of the mysterious copies that circulated over the years - Hillman hadn't). It's hard to imagine two men more up for to the mammoth task of exploring this mammoth tome, or at least willing to give it a red hot go (as we say Down Under).

And give it a red hot go they do, in an utterly compelling sequence of 15 conversations. They speak of Jung opening the mouths of the dead with the Red Book, and in doing so being completely psychological without psychological concepts. We learn how the concepts and conceptualisation of Jung's psychology came after the experiences of writing Red Book, and how those concepts can be viewed as providing a context for this profound work Jung was never really sure if he could or should show us (despite its being the most carefully worked of all of his writings). As they chat on, we discover how Jung was not satisfied merely to descend into the underworld, but was driven by a need to return and bring something back, and then to find a way to share it ( through his conceptualised psychology that the authors seem to agree has little of the life or Imaginal possibilities of the Red Book in which it was birthed). All this... and much, much more! Along the way we catch some revealing personal glimpses of the two great men themselves, and their own wrestling with psychology sic], Jung, and the Red Book.
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By Graham Mummery TOP 1000 REVIEWER on 12 Oct. 2013
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The publication of Jung's The Red Book: Liber Novus has generated a great deal of interest as it offers some first hand material transcribed from of what was happening in the period described in Memories, Dreams, Reflections (Flamingo) as his "Confrontation with the Unconscious." The point of interest in this book is that it offers commentary on the significance of "The Red Book" by one of its editors and translators, Sonu Shamdasani, and one of Jung's last surviving collaborators, and possibly most creative successor, James Hillman.

One of the things that surprises Shadasani early in this book of dialogues is that the publication of the Red Book was Hillman's first direct experience of it. This may be perhaps less of a surprise to readers of one of Hillman's previous books of dialogues, Inter Views: Conversations with Laura Pozzo on Psychotherapy, Biography, Love, Soul, Dreams, Work, Imagination and the State of the Culture, in which he states, though personally acquainted with Jung, he would not describe himself as one of the inner circle. Readers of Hillman will also be perhaps less surprised by some of his ideas about Jung's work which is less reverent and less inclined to use some of the more abstract technical terms employed by Jungians. Yet for all that, he states how he feels his own work stressing the imagination is largely confirmed by the Red Book and it's contents.
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I read a very poor review of this book the other day suggesting that it was too self referential. Regretably, for a complete outsider to the themes addressed within it, this is probably true. That said it is an excellent companion volume to the RED BOOK itself.
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Two great minds and a series of conversations revolving around the implications of the publication of Jungs magnum opus!! What could be more exciting and invigorating an intellectual excursion than that? Unfortunately for me it was stale, tired and frustratingly repetitive with little of the inspired energy of Hillman's earlier work.
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While attending a presentation of Dick Russell's first Volume of his biography of a lyrical writer and interpreter of the soul, the late James Hillman (1926-2011), in New York's Jung Foundation, I strolled through their well-stocked bookstore. I picked up Hillman's final book, a conversation with Sonu Shamdasani. I was already taken slightly aback by the mixed feelings I had concerning the book's title as well as the identity of Hillman's conversation prompter. Leafing through the book and glancing at their exchanges about which C.G. Jung worked out in his Red Book, I realised immediately, this was not a heart-to-heart conversation but rather an exchange between two individuals trying to best each other at intellectual word games. No need for this I thought and put the book down, thus saving me from spending nearly $ 28.-
Glad to heed my inner voice, I went to Russell's entertaining talk. Yet, when we broke for tea and delicious cakes, I thought I should give the book a second chance. I met Hillman once and served as his translator in 1995 for a daylong seminar in Bern, Switzerland, on his then just published book, Kinds of Power. I had been an avid reader of his work since Francis Huxley introduced me to it in 1976, so I bought this book simply to complete my Hillman collection. I gave myself a simple "why not," but was I thinking of something else when I made this decision? Yes, because this book is a very good example of the psycho pompous at work with its shadowy grand pretence, factitiousness and hypocritical shoddiness.
C. G. Jung ends, in 1930, his Liber Secundus, in the Red Book, with the following words: Der Prüfstein ist das Alleinsein mit sich selber. Dies ist der Weg. The touchstone is the being alone with one self. This is the way.
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