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Josquin Desprez - Missa Gaudeamus

3.3 out of 5 stars 4 customer reviews

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  • Audio CD (19 Dec. 2008)
  • SPARS Code: DDD
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Naive Sa
  • ASIN: B000025MIF
  • Average Customer Review: 3.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 458,820 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

Disc: 1

  1. Missa Gaudeamus: Introit: Gaudeamus
  2. Missa Gaudeamus: Kyrie: Kyrie Eleison
  3. Missa Gaudeamus: Kyrie: Christie Eleison
  4. Missa Gaudeamus: Kyrie: Kyrie Eleison
  5. Missa Gaudeamus: Gloria: Gloria In Excelcis Deo, Et In Terra Pax
  6. Missa Gaudeamus: Gloria: Qui Tollis Peccata Mundi
  7. Missa Gaudeamus: Graduel: Timete. Dominum Omnes Sancti Ejus
  8. Missa Gaudeamus: Allelulia. Venite Ad Me
  9. Missa Gaudeamus: Credo: Patrem Omnipotentatem
  10. Missa Gaudeamus: Credo: Et Incarnatus
  11. Missa Gaudeamus: Credo: Et In Spiritum
  12. Missa Gaudeamus: Credo: Et Unam Sanctum
  13. Missa Gaudeamus: Sanctus: Sanctus
  14. Missa Gaudeamus: Sanctus: Pleni Sunt Caeli
  15. Missa Gaudeamus: Sanctus: Hosanna I
  16. Missa Gaudeamus: Benedictus: Benedictus I A III
  17. Missa Gaudeamus: Benedictus: Hosanna II
  18. Missa Gaudeamus: Agnus Dei: Agnus Dei I
  19. Missa Gaudeamus: Agnus Dei: Agnus Dei II
  20. Missa Gaudeamus: Agnus Dei: Agnus Dei III
  21. Missa Gaudeamus: Antiphonae Ad Communiomen: Beati Mundo Corde - A Sei Voci/Bernard Fabre-Garrus - A Sei Voci/Bernard Fabre-Garrus A
  22. Missa Gaudeamus: Salve Regina
  23. Motets A La Vierge: Recordare Virgo Mater: Prima Pars
  24. Motets A La Vierge: Recordare Virgo Mater: Secunda Pars
  25. Motets A La Vierge: Regina Caeli: Prima Pars
  26. Motets A La Vierge: Regina Caeli: Secunda Pars
  27. Motets A La Vierge: Ave Maris Stella: Prima Pars
  28. Motets A La Vierge: Ave Maris Stella: Secunda Pars
  29. Motets A La Vierge: Virgo Salutiferi: Prima Pars - A Sei Voci/Bernard Fabre-Garrus - A Sei Voci/Bernard Fabre-Garrus A
  30. Motets A La Vierge: Virgo Salutiferi: Secunda Pars
  31. Motets A La Vierge: Virgo Salutiferi: Tertia Pars

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After years (decades?) of Tallis Scholars and Hilliard Ensemble versions of Josquin, which were admirable but made me feel something important was missing, I finally found the right Josquin "sound" with A Sei Voci (which I believe does not refer to the number of people singing but to the number of voices in the music they may sing). This particular disk, with Missa Gaudeamus, four motets and plainchant, is my very favourite. The performance manages to combine the spiritual with the sensual in a manner that seems ideally suited to Josquin's France and Italy of the early Renaissance. The children's voices of the Maitrisse des Pays de Loire, which sing in a relatively straightforward manner, contrasted with the more florid and soloistic lower voices contribute much to this. Yes, they may not sing as "correctly" as a female soprano (who would not have been singing this in Josquin's time, unfortunately of course), but when, at several points in the mass, they burst forth with the quotation from the Gaudeamus chant on which the mass is based, the music soars in a way I have not heard in any other Josquin performance. The same goes for the motet Virgo Salutiferi, which I did not know before this disk but which must be one of the most affecting Josquin has written. In some ways Missa Gaudeamus does indeed seem a throwback to what one would expect from a medieval mass, as noted by another reviewer: unexpected and unprepared changes in pace and rhythm, and opportunities for word painting that are simply ignored (Crucifixus etc. is quite stunning in that respect). This is not the pre-Palestrina Josquin of Missa Pange Lingua but the successor of Dufay and Busnois, which is one of its most enjoyable characteristics I think.Read more ›
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By Sid Nuncius #1 HALL OF FAMETOP 50 REVIEWER on 15 May 2014
I'm afraid that I agree with EL Wisty and Tancredi in their reviews here: this isn't a very good recording. I have never got on well with A Sei Voci's recordings of Josquin; I have found them rather thin in sound and somewhat unengaged as performances. The addition here of the children's choir, however well-intentioned, certainly doesn't help and I find the whole effect rather unpleasing. It certainly doesn't show Josquin's magnificent music at its best.

There is now a truly excellent recording of this mass by De Labyrintho. Rather than go on at length about why I find this A Sei Voci performance unsatisfactory, I will simply recommend that you try De Labyrintho. You will find samples to play on the mp3 page here: Josquin Desprez: Musica Symbolica I suggest that you try them and if you like the sound, snap up either the download or the CD. It's a real treat.
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Josquin is of all the great composers of the 15th century the one to whom I find it the easiest to relate to. I have seven of his masses in my collection, and I have tried to purchase groups with differing approaches to his music for example Peter Phillips in their famous Missa Pange Lingua recording but also the New London Choir giving a performance with a larger mixed choir. I have found things to enjoy in these and other differing approaches

However I found this performance by Sei Voci, naturally six soloists, together with a childrens choir, Maitrisse de Pays de Loire to be pretty hard going. The childrens choir is too large and not focused in its contributions. The recording made in the beautiful abbey church of Fontevraud, does not help either, there is a sort of glassynesss to the tone that I find tiring.

The best parts of the performances are the parts not by Josquin, the plainchant which is beautifully delivered in a very French Latin and here the accoustic seems to have been well caught
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By E. L. Wisty TOP 500 REVIEWERVINE VOICE on 8 Feb. 2011
The core ensemble of A Sei Voci, here reduced to five male voices, are accompanied by a largely female youth choir from the Maîtrise des Pays de Loire. They combine somewhat better in my opinion than on the Missa Pange Lingua where the greater blandness of the larger choir overwhelmed the core ensemble, but still doesn't hit the spot for me. The motets are a bit better, the accompaniment being smaller, but overall it doesn't really capture the liveliness of Josquin to be found in many other recordings, and almost seems to be harking back to the medieval world a little rather than embracing the musical creativeness of the Renaissance.

The booklet contains lyrics with translations and notes in French, English and Spanish.

This disc is also available as part of a six-disc boxed set.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Thin sound and unengaged performance 15 May 2014
By Sid Nuncius - Published on Amazon.com
As I so often do, I agree with Giordano Bruno in his review here: this isn't a very good recording. I have never got on well with A Sei Voci's recordings of Josquin; I have found them rather thin in sound and somewhat unengaged as performances. The addition here of the children's choir, however well-intentioned, certainly doesn't help and I find the whole effect rather unpleasing. It certainly doesn't show Josquin's magnificent music at its best.

There is now a truly excellent recording of this mass by De Labyrintho. Rather than go on at length about why I find this A Sei Voci performance unsatisfactory, I will simply recommend that you read Signor Bruno's review and then try De Labyrintho - it's a real treat.
3 of 5 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Six Voices? Not Exactly... 27 Feb. 2009
By Gio - Published on Amazon.com
A Sei Voci (six voices) has an uncanny way of sounding more like eighteen voices. That's not a compliment. What it implies is a roughness of ensemble, a lack of precision. On this CD, and others by the same consort, the lack of ensemble is exposed chiefly in the "attacks' (the initiation of notes - for singers, the consonants that initiate syllables of text). They're ragged. Even the professional male core of Sei Voci singers are ragged in their attacks; on this CD, the attacks are not crisp, while on their better CD of Josquin's Missa de Beata Vergine, their attacks are too brusque and sound like a series of surges. The unison plainchant of track 7, the "graduel", exposes the sloppiness of attacks very plainly. Their melismata (series of notes on a single vowel) are ragged also; on this CD, each singer has his own style of melisma, while on Beata Vergine, all of them are hooty, making the melismata sound like "he-he-he" or "wa-wa-wa."

The use of the Children's Choir of the Loire might be delightful in a live concert, but the children don't really have the art of polyphony under enough control for a recording. Their rhythms are shaky and need to be 'cued' by a conductor. Their tuning is 'communal' rather than exact. Obviously six children on a single line can't be expected to be even as crisp in their attacks as the men. I know the Latin texts of the mass by heart, but on this CD I have a hard time following the words as language.

The whole effect is a lack of compositional unity and an effect of laboring to stay close. Josquin should never should labored or disjointed. My apologies, but for me this performance doesn't work.
8 of 15 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Most Beautiful piece of music I've ever heard. 1 Mar. 2003
By EJR reader - Published on Amazon.com
Josquin Desprez was one of the most accomplished composers of his day, of a musical movement known as the "Netherlanders". But you don't have to know that to undestand the beauty and power of this work. If you've just happened to stumble on this, then BUY IT NOW. You will not regret having this music in your life.
This piece does what all great composers strive to do when working from Devotional music: it transcends it's religious context and speaks to a beauty and mystery understood by all regardless of religion and makes it felt in a way only music can.
Again, you need this CD and you don't even know it (perhaps you do) so I am doing a service in declaring: Don't delay! Buy it now and let the music speak for itself.
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