'stu do we have to go threw [sic] this yet again..read my posts before kicking off..'
I am not too sure what you mean here either. Just to correct you. I wasn't 'kicking off' about anything, just curious as to why you continue to believe that people have or were jumping the queue and I was not being 'an ass about it'. My question really evolves around why would this cause a problem for Amazon, the system is predominantly automated and based on the order number. Regardless of whether 100 or 1000 people pre-ordered and then upgraded, doesn't mean anything, because it's a wasted effort - as the bundles are given to those with earlier initial order dates. I simply don't see your logic. No one is manually going through these orders, even if they were, it would be pretty simple to realise which were later and earlier order numbers with a basic spread sheet.
Yes, you are right I did use the link and I am glad I did. I neither feel any guilt or remorse for doing so, why should I. Given that all I simply did was notify Amazon of my bundle choice earlier than others. It's not queue jumping as there isn't a queue to jump.
stu your wrong there was a queue ..the queue im referring to is the order people received emails asking them did they want to upgrade..when people used the link they sent off there selection much earlier than they should have which in turn caused lots of confusion .I never ment you would get your selection before you should have and you knew this because we went threw this before.
'...the queue im referring to is the order people received emails asking them did they want to upgrade.'
Hopefully we can put this to bed. It makes no difference when people received the emails. It's not a first come first serve based on those responding to their email from Amazon, it's a first come first served based on those who first pre-ordered the solus PS4. Therefore, using the link first really made no difference to someone using the email 10 days later. If they had initially pre-ordered before me, then they would be first in line.
In as much as I am in favour of open discussion, free speech and right of opinion, but when you are using rumour and guesswork dressed as fact, this only causes concern and worry for those that perhaps are new and figuring it out. By all means, if you have something valid to say, then say it, but stop being a clanging bell.
david Findlay ive not posted anything untrue ive posted info given to me by amazon/sony so if you don't care to believe it or not I don't care the same way I could careless when you've posted crap on here. bretnall you've not read my posts I was referring to people sening of requests for bundles when they should have waited to get there email from amazon..instead of waiting they did jump in but as ive said before it means nothing concerning wether they get it early or not because they will still get allocated in original order dates.but the issue for amazon has been if people had waited for there emails they could have allocated bundles much quicker because they could have allocated as they received replys back in a steady stream but instead because loads jumped in too early amazon was swamped with more requests than they needed so that's why there is a delay now
Where on earth do you dig up this information from. You claim Amazon and Sony, but have nothing to back that up. If you are relying on information from Amazon CS, then that is the blind leading the blind there. They know little about what's going on with the PS4, there job is to deal with order errors, returns, faulty goods, complaints etc, not know everything that the PS4 bundles will consist of and when they will be allocated. Then we come to Sony. Do you have some kind of direct contact with Sony perhaps you know Kazuo Hirai, or Mark Cerny. Who knows..... the mind boggles.... or perhaps you simply make stuff up in the desire to sound all knowing. Go on, I know you want to say it '.... I work in the industry...' :-P
Do you really think Amazon are just manually sifting through emails that were sent out to their staff in the order in which people made their bundle selection? That's not how it works.
Amazon's system will query all the PS4 preorders and sort them by date, then find the associated selection for each preorder and allocate them until they run out of a given bundle. This is likely to be an automated process that requires no human interaction, so no time is wasted and there is no delay because of it.
The delay you're speaking of is a figment of your imagination based on a lack of understanding about computer technology, software and database systems.
wow martin you sound amazing why don't you ask amazon for a job :) and stu why don't you take a chill pill and calm down maybe your taking your wifes menopause medicine ,if so lay of the hrt patches .. also go and check proper game sites such as game informer,giant bomb,ign..etc and also tweet Shuhei Yoshida he replys very quickly as long as hes awake or not in a meeting and the friends I have at sony uk wouldn't want to chat to aggressive people so im guessing that's stu/martin/andrew of the list then lol
and yes I do know how databases work I have used them but I do know it also takes a real persons eyes to look at that information and check its correct and stock is allocated as it should be but as I said if you are some kind of database wizkid then ask amazon for a job .
For some reason you think I am stressing over this, me thinks you are projecting. Given the fact that you have and are quite insulting and rude to people, when others haven't been to you. Remember, just because someone doesn't agree on something you state as fact and calls that to question, is not a personal attack on you, just on your statements. There is no need to be rude or insulting to others, simply because they do not agree with your view or comments.
As for the websites. I used to like IGN, but they seem to be late in their news. Polygon is good and of course Edge, given that's more industry lead.
Some of your comments I simply couldn't figure because of the atrocious grammar and spelling. I am guessing you are stating you have a friend who works for Sony? What division and where?
Oh and finally. No one is being aggressive towards you, they are simply frustrated by your misleading comments and the lack of proof. The quickest way you can shut me and everyone else up? Provide the proof of what you are claiming in your comments. Granted some of what you state is pretty obvious, other comments dressed as fact though are just plain ignorance.
For the record. Judging from how your comments are written and put together and the fact you are unable to realise the difference between someone not agreeing with you and someone making a personal attack at you, one can only assume that you are not very old, maybe late teens. In which case, just to remind you, 99% of the people here are having an adult conversation. If you want to 'troll' or be obnoxious, go to the comments on IGN.
I notice that Amazon have removed your comment. I guess even they thought your comments were insulting too.
Martin Brentnall, i put him on ignore this morning because of his attitude, this isn,t the only topic he has been aggressive in. i think he seeks out arguments in order to get attention. its been so much nicer since i put him on ignore