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Genesis Archive #2: 1976-1992 Box set

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  • Audio CD (6 Nov. 2000)
  • Number of Discs: 3
  • Format: Box set
  • Label: Virgin
  • ASIN: B00005064V
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (32 customer reviews)
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GENESIS Archive #2 1976-1992 (2000 UK 34-track triple CD box set concentrating on the Phil Collins era including rarities b-sides 12 mixes & live tracks housed in a superb 10 x 6 book style pack with integral 64-page booklet including previously unseen photographs CDBOX7)

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A little something for the Genesis fan who must have everything and preferably in a box--even if he or she owns most of it already: Volume 2 of the Archive series picks up the tale at the tricky point of Peter Gabriel's departure and follows, in annoyingly non-chronological fashion over the course of three CDs, the band's amazingly survivalist transformation from parochially English prog-rock eccentrics with heads full of crazed kindergarten-story-time fantasy, to purveyors of sleek but complex and not entirely quirk-free adult-rock adored by millions globally. All the more amazing, really, when you consider how in 1976 Genesis were flapping around with enforced instrument swaps (drummer Phil Collins to vocals, bassist Mike Rutherford to guitar, guitarist Steve Hackett to the door marked "Exit" and a solo career) much to the puzzlement of a bemused press, who clearly didn't fancy the band's chances of making it past either Christmas. How wrong they were. According to keyboard-player Tony Banks, Archive Vol. 2 mops up pretty much all of the out-takes and leftovers from the albums covered by this period (there are four off-cuts from the Abacab album alone, including errant hit single "Paperlate", but these have all been released commercially before) while the second CD is composed of live recordings left off Seconds Out, Three Sides Live, etc. (watch out for "Entangled", recorded on the A Trick Of The Tale tour in 1976 and featuring the interim post-Gabriel line-up with Yes/King Crimson man Bill Bruford on drums). Essentially, live cuts not withstanding, Archive Vol. 2 boils down to one previously unreleased track, a revealing work-in-progress version of "Mama" and a perfect creative example of just how flexibly limbed and effortlessly commercial Genesis had become. Therefore, committed long-term fans will see this set as representing a fairly meagre return on their investment. Nonetheless, for the inquisitive layman who wishes to dig deeper than the obligatory Greatest Hits collection and can live without hearing "Match Of The Day", Archive Vol. 2 sets about sweeping the odds and ends from every nook and cranny of Genesis' most successful period. --Kevin Maidment

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Format: Audio CD
I agree wholeheartedly with the Rugby Fans review from 24th October. What a wasted opportunity this set is and how brilliant it could have been. Anyone new to the band will find it an excellent alternative to trawling up and down the country to record fairs to try and track down most of the already released material on here. If you've been a lifelong fan and collected their output over the years then not a lot here will be new.
To summarise; already released on CD....
On the shoreline, Hearts on fire, You might recall, Paperlate, Evidence of Autumn, Do the neurotic, Inside and out, Feeding the fire, I can't dance (12"), Dreaming while you sleep (live), The Brazilian (live), Your own special way (live), Land of confusion (12"), Tonight, tonight, tonight (12"), Open door, Pigeons
Already released on vinyl....
I'd rather be you, Naminanu, Submarine, Invisible touch (12"), The Lady lies (live), Day the light went out, Vancouver, It's yourself
Never released commercially (vinyl or cd)....
Illegal alien (live), It's gonna get better (live), Deep in the Motherlode (live), Ripples (live), Burning Rope (live), Entangled (live), Dukes Travels (live), No reply at all (live), Man on the corner (live), Mama (work in progress)
Should have been included....
Match of the Day, Me and Virgil, Inside and Out (live), Eleventh Earl of Mar (live), All in a Mouses Night (live), White Mountain (live) circa 1975, Keep it Dark (live) + unreleased demos
Personally I would have ditched all the tedious 12" mixes in favour of the above section. I know these sets aim to capture broad appeal but surely the sales are mainly attributed to fans wanting to add gaps into their collections and 12" mixes of a band like Genesis are not usually sought after nor highly regarded. The demos mentioned in the earlier review would have been however.
A missed opportunity I fear and not the treat for fans that the 1998 retrospective set was.
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While I applaud Virgin Records' continuing loyalty to the Genesis back catalogue and the high quality of the tracks on the first Archive Box Set, I am a little dissapointed at the content of the latest trawl throught the archives. The ardent and long time fan, who this set is aimed at will probably have (in one form or another) all of the tracks on offer here. Firstly disc one: A selection of B-sides, many supposedly on CD for the first time. But at least 4 of the offerings appeared on CD singles. And why the ommission of "Me And Virgil" from the Paperlate EP?? Naminanu was the B-side to 2 singles (Keep It Dark and No Reply At All) so is hardly a rare track. Inside and Out (and the rest of "Spot the Pigeon" (though Match of the Day is omitted here, why?)was given a CD release a few years back by Virgin) On disc 2 the so called "Rare" live tracks are from some of the most popular bootlegs that most Genesis fans will already own. The LA Forum, Wembley and Theatre Royal / Lyceum shows were all FM broadcasts at the time and are now all available on CD's if you know where to look. I for one would have prefered some "real" rarities in CD quality like, for instance, the 1975 Trident Studio demo's(from where "It's Yourself" comes!), the 1978 Dallas rehearsals, the Invisible Touch "Work in progress" demo's (as recorded for the BBC), "Silver Song","All in a mouses night" from the 1977 tour, etc.. Disc three boasts that Man On the Corner was not on 3 sides live, but it did appear on the video of the same name and was repeated again on the History of Genesis video Set.Read more ›
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By Spinalpap4u VINE VOICE on 17 Mar. 2003
Format: Audio CD
This box set was a bitter disappointment to me and any of the reviewers praising it must be fans of 1980's/90's Genesis who have little knowledge of or desire to listen to the classic period material. Most older Genesis fans still regard the early Collins years as vintage Genesis and unfortunately this release will please them in snippets only.
The composition of this box set over three discs should have been changed in my view so as to cover the period 1976 - 84. A further release could then have covered the period from 1986 (Invisible Touch) onwards and we would not have had to wade through the tedious stream of endless 12" remixes of singles of dubious interest.
There are a huge number of high quality concert recordings that could have formed the basis for a wonderful collection of rare and sought after tracks and performances. The 1976 Hammersmith show with "White Mountain" an obvious highlight, the Wind & Wuthering set with "11th Earl of Mar", the entire Earls Court show from 1977 (although this would probably have overlapped with Seconds Out too much). The 1980 Lyceum set or even one of the many recorded 1984 shows would have made much more sense and given a far more cohesive basis to hang the rest of the box set around much as the wonderful Lamb performance from Box 1 did.
There are some highlights here particularly Ripples and Untangled as well as some of the earlier b sides such as "Its Yourself" and particularly "Inside and Out" (the best non album track ever written by the band). Surely however "Match of the Day" and "Me and Virgil", inexplicably omitted, would have been preferable to the 12" mixes included. As for the live orchestral accompanied version of "Your Own Special Way"; this is a particularly sickly version - so syrupy it is almost unlistenable to.
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