Genesis 1976 - 1982 [Hybrid SACD + DVD] Box set, SACD, Enhanced, Hybrid SACD
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Please Note: Requires SACD-compatible hardware It doesn't need SACD compatible hardware. The Stereo CD element can be played on a standard CD player. The SACD 5.1 surround sound required a SACD-compatible hardware.
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As for the presentation of the discs, the box itself is beautifully done, albeit not very practical - I do have a lot of trouble getting the discs out of the box, having tried various solutions such as inserting things and turning the box up-side down and shaking it (the latter being my currently favoured approach).
The box-set comes with a special booklet which is quite beautifully done, but whoes content doesn't impress me that much. Basically, a Michael Watt tells us his oppinion on all the ablums and songs, and that's not very helpful to me. To what can I use the fact that he finds 'Submarine' to be going nowhere and 'Me And Virgil' to be a failed experiment, when they just happen to be two of my favorite Genesis B-sides? Nothing ...
But enought a bout the general properties, let me give a disc-by-disc analysis of the set.
- A TRICK OF THE TAIL -
The oldest album of the set, and one that has improved significantly in terms of sound. Also, this disc has the most generous offering of extras: As every disc, the promo videos from this album, that being Robbery, Assault and Battery, Ripples and A Trick of the Tail; hardly that interesting, bearing in mind that these same videos were recently released on the Video Show DVD. A re-isue interview with each band member about the general situation of the band at this time, and the songs of the album.Read more ›
But these are very minor gripes, far outweighed by the positives.
I do not have a surround sound system so cannot comment on the 5.1 mixes, but I can confirm that in the main the stereo remixes are a vast improvement on the originals.
I say 'in the main' because at times, particularly on 'Trick', the mixes do sound somewhat dynamically over-compressed. 'Trick' was always one of the more dynamic and punchy sounding albums, thanks to some finely recorded drums. But now the loud parts are quite compressed and don't quite blow you away quite as much as would be hoped in that regard. But this is possibly a result of the final mastering rather than Nick Davis's mixes - and these days most mastering engineers are obsessed with compressing mixes to the max to get the levels as loud as possible and to sound good for radio and MP3.
Throughout the set the biggest improvement is the clarity in Collins's vocal, which was often mixed too low and swamped in bad quality reverb (check out the original 'Eleventh Earl Of Marr' or much of 'And Then there Were Three' and compare).
Some of the backing vocals are now a little quite though: think of the beautiful 3 part harmonies on 'Entangled'. The new mix sets the 2 harmonies somewhat behind the lead vocal, whereas previously all 3 vocals were mixed more or less at the same level.
By and large though, once you have these new mixes you will never ever want to return to the original ones, such are the overall gains.
The DVD extras, I think, are great. As said previously, there are probably other things that could have gone on, but what we do have is fantastic.Read more ›
There is no need to give a blow by blow account of each album `cos if you`re reading this you`re probably a Genesis fan anyway (plus I haven`t listened to all of `em yet!)
DON`T expect surround sound "wizz bang" guitar or keyboard from rear left to front right or any of that sort of foolery. These albums have been remixed with great taste and restraint. The rear channels just add to the whole feeling of space. Each song can now breathe, something they just couldn`t do on Genesis albums before now, as there just wasn`t "room" for the complex arrangements to shine. Each instrument can now clearly be heard (a boon for all you tribute bands!)
To wrap up, if you have a DVD or SA-CD player and 5.1 surround, and you`re a Genesis fan, you would be plain crazy not to invest in these brilliant albums, either as the box set or individually.
SUBMARINE: I'd have to go back to my old 45's somewhere to see which edit of this song was the original. However, I will say this: the version of "Submarine" on the Archives 1976-1992 box set runs 5:13. The version on this new set runs 4:38. So to what degree "Submarine" has been restored is up in the air, because the new release is shorter. Having said that, the new mix is vastly superior, evidently due to what were reportedly damaged masters on the earlier boxed set. I have both versions that I've been playing on iTunes right now, and the difference in sound quality is evident from the opening drumbeat, which is actually at a different pitch on the new version. The new mix is also much, much, much fuller and more powerful, while the mix on the 1976-1992 set is so flat that the song does begin to feel monotonous. The new mix is so powerful that the song now builds to a real climax (where the 1976-1992 mix just faded out); "Submarine" now has a Pink Floydish feel to it I'd never really considered before. So, we lose 35 seconds, but gain immensely better sound and musical power.
IT'S YOURSELF: Yes, this one is complete. In fact, as a Genesis geek for nearly 30 years, I was shocked that I'd never heard (or if I had heard it, I didn't remember it) the full 6:15 version before, instead of the 5:25 version on Archive 1976-1992. And I owned the Ripples 7" too -- though I always collected 7-inches for the picture sleeves, and rarely actually played the record.Read more ›
Most Recent Customer Reviews
Misunderstanding at the beginning but in the end a very good deal.
Phil Collins takes the lead vocals and the mood changes, the style evolves for the better. The affected poses of the first albums (minus Lamb and Pond) are here abandoned to a... Read morePublished on 28 Jan. 2014 by laurent chatillon
Yes, this is the real deal, Genesis during a golden period. Their songwriting abilities are on display here, there are very few bands in modern music, certainly modern prog, that... Read morePublished on 4 Dec. 2013 by Jordy
Genesis never sounded this great !!!
If you love your SACD player this is one of the must have CD-boxes (If you also like Genesis of course)
Ok, so I'm not a total Genesis anorak, but I seem to have a lot of money at the moment and therefore bought this. When I put on "Trick of the Tail" I was blown away. Read morePublished on 20 Jun. 2011 by Village Idiot
BUYERS BEWARE!!! This boxset is NTSC and not PAL and will not work with most uk players. This is not stated in the description. Read morePublished on 11 Jun. 2011 by Mrs k
I've been waiting nine months for this set to come back into stock at a sensible price, so when Amazon started offering it at £85 I bought immediately and it arrived today. Read morePublished on 10 Jun. 2011 by Softfun
I waited a long time for some of this material - and I can say it was well worth the wait. The only minor disappointment was a re-hash of Extras material that had already appeared... Read morePublished on 7 Jun. 2009 by Stephen R. Knight
Sound-engineering & sound-production has just leapt forward by a magnitude analogous to Spinal Tap's "eleven".
Play these CDs on a good system & you'll understand what I mean. Read more