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  • Hardcover: 320 pages
  • Publisher: Princeton University Press (6 Oct. 2015)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0691169640
  • ISBN-13: 978-0691169644
  • Product Dimensions: 16 x 3.3 x 23.9 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (19 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 79,618 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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"[A] remarkable new book."--Will Hutton, "Observer"

"Lucid and forcefully-argued."--Peter Thal Larsen, Reuters Breakingviews

"Adair Turner's "Between Debt and the Devil: Money, Credit and Fixing Global Finance"--out this month--joins a select group of books that provide as clear an explanation of the financial crisis as one could hope for."--Diane Coyle, "The Enlightened Economist"

"Some astonishingly original ideas."--Alex Brummer, "Daily Mail"

"Adair Turner's new book "Between Debt and the Devil" is definitely worth your time."--Clive Crook, "Bloomberg View"

"Extensively researched and well-written."--Edward Chancellor, "Wall Street Journal"

"[An] excellent book."--Nick Butler, "Financial Times"


One of "Financial Times" (FT.com) Best Economics Books of 2015, chosen by Martin Wolf

One of "The Independent"'s Best Economics Books 2015

One of Bloomberg Businessweek's Best Books of 2015, chosen by Vitor Constancio
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"Whether you agree with Turner s proposal or not, ["Between Debt and the Devil"] represents an important challenge to economic orthodoxy, which, as he rightly notes, has already failed us once."--John Cassidy, "The New Yorker""

"Adair Turner, the former chairman of Britain s Financial Services Authority and described by "The Economist" as a man for all policy crises, upends financial orthodoxy in "Between Debt and the Devil." He argues that nothing regulators have done thus far has addressed the fundamental underlying cause of financial instability. . . . Turner s book is tightly argued and is packed with insights about the financial markets as well as the real economy."--Brenda Jubin, Investing.com"

"Adair Turner s "Between Debt and the Devil: Money, Credit and Fixing Global Finance"--out this month--joins a select group of books that provide as clear an explanation of the financial crisis as one could hope for."--Diane Coyle, "The Enlightened Economist""

"Adair Turner s new book "Between Debt and the Devil" is definitely worth your time."--Clive Crook, "Bloomberg View""

"Turner s book should make policymakers and commentators sit up and take notice."--TT Ram Mohan, "Economic & Political Weekly""

One of "Financial Times" (FT.com) Best Economics Books of 2015, chosen by Martin Wolf
One of "The Independent"'s Best Economics Books 2015
One of Bloomberg Businessweek's Best Books of 2015, chosen by Vitor Constancio"

"Whether you agree with Turner's proposal or not, [Between Debt and the Devil] represents an important challenge to economic orthodoxy, which, as he rightly notes, has already failed us once."--John Cassidy, The New Yorker

"Extensively researched and well-written."--Edward Chancellor, Wall Street Journal

"[A] remarkable new book."--Will Hutton, Observer

"Lucid and forcefully-argued."--Peter Thal Larsen, Reuters Breakingviews

"Turner offers a convincing account of the debt-fuelled global economic cycle of the last 15 years or so. I found myself skimming over large sections and nodding in agreement."--Erik Britton, Management Today

"An overdue challenge to a taboo against monetary finance held sacred for too long."--Giles Wilkes, Financial Times

"Adair Turner, the former chairman of Britain's Financial Services Authority and described by The Economist as a man for all policy crises, upends financial orthodoxy in Between Debt and the Devil. He argues that nothing regulators have done thus far has addressed the fundamental underlying cause of financial instability. . . . Turner's book is tightly argued and is packed with insights about the financial markets as well as the real economy."--Brenda Jubin, Investing.com

"If developed economies fall back into recession, people may hear quite a bit more about Lord Turner's ideas."--The Economist

"This is an important book because Turner thinks clearly where much analysis has been fuzzy . . . [a] stimulating book."--Ben Chu, The Independent

"Adair Turner's Between Debt and the Devil: Money, Credit and Fixing Global Finance--out this month--joins a select group of books that provide as clear an explanation of the financial crisis as one could hope for."--Diane Coyle, The Enlightened Economist

"Some astonishingly original ideas."--Alex Brummer, Daily Mail

"[A] brilliant new book. . . . [The] prose crisply conveys analysis of real force."--Tom Clark, Guardian

"[A] scintillating individual [contribution] to the debate not just on the future of finance but how we should run our economy."--Felix Martin, New Statesman

"Adair Turner's new book Between Debt and the Devil is definitely worth your time."--Clive Crook, Bloomberg View

"A challenging but relentlessly logical book about the flaws of the system that led us to the Great Recession: excess finance, excessive indebtedness. He adds to the literature that explains why more and more finance is not always good. The proposed cure requires going beyond the present financial regulatory reform. A bold and thought provoking book."--Vitor Constancio, Vice president, European Central Bank, one of Bloomberg's Best Books of 2015

"This book lays down a challenge which subsequent accounts of monetary policy will have to address."--David Willetts, Prospect

"[An] excellent book."--Nick Butler, Financial Times

"[H]is extensive work both at financial institutions and in academia, have given Turner an insider's view of the world of finance and economics. But his conclusions--that the banking system needs to be fundamentally restructured, and that periodically, instead of a government running up debt, the central bank should just print money for the government to spend--are far from conventional."--Matt Phillips, Quartz

"This is a good book, well worth reading. . . . It is well and clearly written and supported by good, non-technical analysis and empirical evidence."--Charles Goodhart, Financial World

"These provocative and insightful arguments are particularly valuable at a time when austerity retains its intellectual luster despite its manifest failures."--Andrew Moravcsik, Foreign Affairs

"Turner's book should make policymakers and commentators sit up and take notice."--TT Ram Mohan, Economic & Political Weekly

One of Financial Times (FT.com) Best Economics Books of 2015, chosen by Martin Wolf

One of The Independent's Best Economics Books 2015

One of Bloomberg Businessweek's Best Books of 2015, chosen by Vitor Constancio"

"[An] excellent book."--Zagreb International Review of Econ & Business

From the Back Cover

"This is a superb book. A must-read for anyone interested in understanding the unhealthy relationship between debt and the modern economy."--Atif Mian, coauthor of House of Debt

"This is the most penetrating analysis of the inherent imperfections of our financial system to appear since the crash of 2008. It will and should provoke extensive debates about the policies needed to avoid future crises."--George Soros

"Adair Turner is a writer who thinks unusually deeply and is prepared to follow his answers to their logical conclusion, however unsettling. Here, he offers a set of proposals for financial reform that are radical yet practical. As the global financial crisis recedes and the danger mounts that the momentum for change will be lost, we can only hope that the world heeds Turner's clarion call."--Barry Eichengreen, University of California, Berkeley

"Turner's fresh and deep insights into our financial system come with the expertise of an insider. Between Debt and the Devil is a landmark in monetary economics, with profound implications for policy reform."--Joseph E. Stiglitz, Nobel Laureate in Economics

"A masterwork! Insightful, scholarly, and persuasive. Adair Turner has provided a convincing analysis of what has gone wrong before, and what could go wrong again, among the intertwined complexities of money, credit, and misguided theories of finance."--Paul Volcker, former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve and the U.S. Economic Recovery Advisory Board

"Between Debt and the Devil is a devastating critique of the banking system and a powerful intellectual challenge to conventional wisdom. A splendid book."--Robert Skidelsky, author of John Maynard Keynes, 1883-1946: Economist, Philosopher, Statesman

"Stunningly thorough yet highly readable, Between Debt and the Devil is a thoughtful and deeply researched book that covers all the policy angles on debt in advanced economies, from the problems in regulating credit binges to the challenges of dealing with their aftermath."--Kenneth S. Rogoff, coauthor of This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

"Between Debt and the Devil is a wide-ranging and highly ambitious book. Turner presents an alternative way of thinking about financial economics."--Alan D. Morrison, coauthor of Investment Banking: Institutions, Politics, and Law

"Original and powerful. In a crowded field, this book stands out."--Robert Pringle, author of The Money Trap: Escaping the Grip of Global Finance

"Turner's book augments the growing literature that lays bare the realities of boom and bust, bubble and crash, and the recurrent coordination failures that characterize financial history. Between Debt and the Devil will enrich debate among both academics and policymakers."--William H. Janeway, author of Doing Capitalism in the Innovative Economy

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The literature surrounding the Financial Crisis of 2008 comes under two categories: (i) blow-by-blow accounts of the story as it happened and (ii) books that seek to understand how it came about. It is obviously the latter that one must turn to when it comes to exploring what we need to do from now on, and Adam Turner, who ran the UK Pensions Commission until 2008 and the UK Financial Services Authority for the next six years is uniquely placed to answer the question, because he not only lived the crisis from an amazing vantage point, but was additionally tasked with keeping the system safe. That was his job!

His analysis of what happened is far from complete. He only mentions technological change in passing, for example. It is, regardless extremely well-informed and it concentrates on the stuff the author learned in his tenure at the FSA. The crisis was a credit crisis, so he chooses to concentrate on credit, while acknowledging there were other possible causes.

His recommendations, on the other hand, I find alarming.

First, the findings on credit:

1. It can make sense for a bank to extend credit which may not be socially desirable. So, for example, a loan against real estate is a super-safe loan for the bank to make because the collateral will not become worthless overnight. Even if the borrower disappears, recovery will be great. But if banks lend mainly against real estate, that’s less desirable than banks funding new productive ventures. To elaborate this point, the banking system has found it historically much simpler to lend to those seeking to invest in already existing assets.
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Too many books have now been written on the causes and consequences of the 2008 financial crisis. Do we really need another? Most of the ground Adair Turner covers has already received exhaustive treatment in Martin Wolf’s The Shifts and the Shocks. Turner’s view is very familiar: the financial sector is too big, we have too much debt, and the banking system should be heavily regulated. There is little surprising or original here. For example, Turner has virtually nothing to say about the interaction between the financial sector and technological innovation. The genuinely innovative ideas in Robert Shiller’s Finance & the Good Society, get passing mention.

Turner’s real strength is the directness of his argument, and the relative brevity of his writing - unlike many post-crisis tomes, this book is reasonably short - and much of the familiar ground can be skipped. He correctly frames the current global macroeconomic problem as how to generate growth without ever-rising debt - public or private. He also gets close to reaching the right answer: no well-organised free-market economy which can print money should ever have a persistent shortfall in demand. Turner recommends that central banks should “monetise budget deficits”, which amounts to financing budget deficits by printing money, rather than issuing bonds. Perhaps what is most significant, is that a supposedly radical policy is being endorsed by someone at the heart of the establishment - after all, Turner was Chairman of Financial Services Authroity (FSA) and may well have been Governor of the Bank of England, had the Canadian rockstar not been available.

The need for genuine innovation in macro policy making is a clear theme. Turner should be applauded for this.
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By David Wineberg TOP 500 REVIEWER on 10 Oct. 2015
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Real estate accounts for more half of all wealth. That is the nub of the problem in global finance. Banks have switched from financing business to financing real estate, almost exclusively. They don’t care that this is non-productive; it is bigger, safer and more profitable. The banks have taken over from government in the creation of credit, and so control is nonexistent. We used to be afraid government would create inflation and financial crises. But government is no longer the biggest player, by a long shot. Banks continually inflate the money supply and the level of debt, even today. We are not better off for it. In Turner’s words, limited land doesn’t mesh with the infinite capacity to create debt obligations. Left to the markets and the bankers, debt will continue to flourish, multiply, and overwhelm. Excessive debt is “economic pollution”.

This is powerful, damning stuff, from a man who has a seat the table. Of the sagging shelf of such books, Between Debt and the Devil is possibly the most lucid, intuitively correct and clear answer yet to the why of the financial crisis.

Along the way, Turner tells us that one of the reasons no mainstream economist predicted the financial crisis is that their economic models do not include banks (!). Central banks, but not the hundreds of thousands of banks that create money by lending for real estate. Yet we base mission critical decisions on them.
-We learn that real estate financing is a dead end. It does not produce new industry or new consumption; it produces more wealth for those who don’t need it, and more debt for those who can’t afford it.
-Those who don’t follow this system do far better. The catch-up successes of Japan, Taiwan and South Korea resulted from banks lending only to business, not consumers.
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